Few Questions on Starting a "Business"

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  1. TylerF

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    So i have seen tons of threads on here about pricing and stuff like that. But it seems like those people are looking to make it a main source of income. Which means they have to factor in other expenses and such.

    I am more looking to just make it like a serious hobby i guess. Maybe in the future make it something more. I have a lot of time to figure that out.

    I'm not sure what to charge for anything. When i look at other studios in the area, there is no pricing info. and since i have a part time job to cover my usual expenses, it's almost all profit for me. I dont want to charge ridiculous prices.

    Also, I want to stray away from the "first name, last name Photography" thing when coming up with a name for myself or my "business"

    i also want to offer design services(shirt designs for bands, site layouts and other things) so far i have come up with:

    Insomniac Photography and Design

    T-Supreme Photo and Design

    Simply Devine Photo and Design

    any of them have potential?

    thanks in advance
     
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    Were it only that simple.

    If you accept payment for your photography or design service, you are now in business. It doesn't matter if you do it part time or full time.

    The city where you live probably requires you have a business license and your state will expect you to collect and send to them sales taxes, if your state has sales taxes. By not using your name for your business, you're going to need to do the DBA (Doing-Business-As) paperwork and pay the fee's necessary to for the county/city clerk to search and make sure someone else isn't already using whichever bnusiness name you finally choose. That's the main reason so many people just use their name.

    You will be competing with other businesses and if they know you are trying to fly under the radar, no license/not collecting sales taxes, didn't do the DBA requirements, like they are, you may find them dropping-a-dime on you and reporting you to the city/state/and feds.

    Any business, part time or full time has to factor in expenses. If you don't, it's very easy to think you're making money, when you really aren't. In that type of situation people usually don't figure that out, until the hole they have dug is very deep.
     
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    thanks for the reply. i did not know that stuff haha.

    my mom is the town clerk, could she just find out that stuff for me? or must i go to a county clerk?

    the only reason i stated that i dont plan on making it my main source of income was so people didn't say i had to factor in my living expenses when pricing my services. because my other job gets those covered.
     
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    None of those names do it for me to tell you the truth. Id scratch em all and try again but thats just me. id stay away from the devines and elegants and the T supreme sounds like a burger of some sort and the insomniac one makes me think why cant he sleep? is he on drugs? but thats just me
     
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    thanks for your input. t-supreme was kind of funny to me so i put it up there. insomniac is what people know me as when i do myspace layouts for bands and shirt designs. but i think it sounds too unprofessional. simply devine was a spur of the moment thing haha
     
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    what type of photography might you be doing at this shop? Portraits and what not im guessing?
     
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    portraits, band promos, live band shots, and maybe some other things i see. but thats nothing to do with the business. i might try to sell prints and stuff of other things i shoot.
     
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    so its gonna be a gallery aswell as your place of buisness and a place to shoot?
     
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    not really, i dont have a designated space to keep a studio up. i will have to do it out of my home until i decide its something i can make a living off of or at least enough to rent a space. i will most likely meet clients in person at a starbucks or something with my portfolio as well as e-mail and stuff. bands dont really care but parents of seniors do. i want to push out door photos as much as i can. i think they look better and my "studio" is a bit crude.

    i want to be able to tell the client, most likely a senior, that we can go where ever they want to shoot and that they can bring different outfits without it costing more per outfit. i kinda want to help people who can't afford the prices of some studios while giving them nice photos. maybe in the future upping the prices a bit. but then im scared ppl will not want to come to me after i bump prices. idk haha

    i was looking to maybe sell prints at local art shows and online. nothing super serious
     
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    If i where doing a lot of things that had to do with bands and what not I would try and play to that when it came down to a name for a business like "roadie photography" which is a pretty bad example but then again some people might say that you wouldn't wanna pigeon hole yourself into something like that. All I know is that people remember a name and will literally chose someone based on a name.
     
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    It seems to me that me and you are pretty much on the same boat. Im kinda debating on weather to take a hobby to the next level. Im trying to do the same thing for people out here that dont have a lot of money. When you mean senior you mean high school senior im guessing?
     
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    yes high school seniors. i dont want to corner myself into being a band photographer only. tho i love shooting bands, i like doing other portraits and such. to me, the first name last name thing is done by every kid with a dslr and myspace nowadays.

    im looking for something professional but not so much that bands stray away from it u know? its a catch 22 kinda.

    any ideas as to pricing though?
     

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