filter question

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  1. fightheheathens

    fightheheathens TPF Noob!

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    So im investing in a new filter system for Film.
    I had a Cokin Filter System with red, polarizing, and graduated ND filters
    as well as some Hoya ND filters.
    I got the Cokin filter system before i really knew what i was doing with photography. I liked it but i have no idea how good it is...
    I liked the flexibility of the graduated ND filters,
    however, i dont want to put cheap filters infront of my lens so my question is, is there a better system? Do i get Hoya or Nikon filters and just use those or are there other options?
    I am on a budget and i dont really want to pay more the 50 dollars per filter I was paying between 30 and 45 for the Cokin filters.


    i almost always shoot black and white with a Red filter and polarizer together
    and color almost always with a polarizer
     
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    $50 is expensive for a filter. That is camera shop retail.

    Most of mine are Tiffen. Picked 'em up for between $10-$25 at stores, online, and camera shows. No complaints on them...
     
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    pulpmojo TPF Noob!

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    I would stick with the cokin filters if that's what you already have. I use the cokin stuff and the only problem I've ever had with them is the fact that they get scratched up when their giggling about in those lousy little cases they come in. What I ended having to do is buying a tiny lens cloth for each filter so I could wrap them before putting them in the case.
     
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    fightheheathens TPF Noob!

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    I forgot to mention, all my gear was stolen
    so im starting all anew

    50 dollars is what im willing to shell out for retail store prices if i hear
    that one system is better then the other. I'd look for it first on e-bay or
    other places

    ...i dont want to put a piece of plastic
    infront of an expensive lens.
     
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    Efergoh TPF Noob!

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    Indeed. But I am also guessing that you used to shop at Norman's in Kzoo, and they tend to rake folks over the coals on prices...
     
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    Garbz No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    The biggest problem with cheap filters is lens flares and this is more prenounced on transparent filters like UV filters. But if this is a non issue for you I would not invest in better filters.
     
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    I use Shing Ray GND filters but they are $100 each. There is another brad- Hi Tech - which has received great reviews and they are cheaper.
    The Cokin grad filter is sold as a Gray Grad and it is not a true ND filter.
    There is a debate among users whether it leaves a color cast or not. Another excellent brand is Lee. The trouble with Hoya and Tiffen is that I do not think they make a rectangle filter. If you use a screw on GND filter you do not have the positioning flexability that you get with the rectangle filters. However they do make a fine CLP filter.
     
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    A $50 limit is going to rule out some really good filters. I use the HiTech ND grads...available from B&H for US$62.50 each. They fit the Cokin P System holder but are far better than the Cokin grads.
     
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    fightheheathens TPF Noob!

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    hmmm, so what your saying is if i go with the Cokin P system, i am not limited to only Cokin filters, but also HiTech filters?
    I'd shell out that much for a good quality filter...

    Edit...
    i just did some searching, it looks like the Cokin P size is what i want...
    I had thought that only Cokin filters would fit that holder, but if thats not the case it seems like the best way to go.
     
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    JIP No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I'd like to know where you are getting Tiffen filters for $10-$25
     
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    Shing-Ray filters also fit the cokin P holder. Just remember that you need an adapter ring to fit each lens, the rings are not expensive.
     
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    fightheheathens TPF Noob!

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    yep, i got a Cokin P holder on ebay last night. Should fit up to 82mm or something. Came with a 52mm holder for my 50 mm.
    and yes, i did shop at norms where they do bend you over with thier prices...not much worse then the bay area though
     

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