I like photography but I am a complete noobie at it. I've just lurked here for about a year and played a bit with a ****ty point and shoot sony but now me and my brother want a nice new camera to learn and we'd like to keep it for a few years before trading for another. I am in Brazil so the prices here are just overtaxed stupidly like more than 180% of the prices in the US, so we would import it from paraguay at no taxes, and that limits a lot of the marke. The camera will be used for a very general use, specially outdoor shootings (I plan to show a lot of the south brazilians scenery to you guys after I learn a bit) and some portrait/body shootings to get some women . My dad has a bureau of advertising that has a Roland 745EX printer that prints up to 2meter so it could be useful there too. The store we will buy from will be this one - www.digitalcenterpy.com -. We will pay for a guy the bring it from there for 20% of the value of the product. We are highly interested in the nikon d80 body at US$950. But what about the lens? I want to pay up to around US$600 in the lens. Maybe we should get two of them for a more wide use? There is also two kits choice for the one with a 18-135 for US$ 1.230 and another with a 18-70 for US$ 1.270. About the lens, I have a choice to buy a nikon or a sigma lens These are the nikons http://www.digitalcenterpy.com/busca_produtos.php?acao=busca-cat&id=46 And the sigmas http://www.digitalcenterpy.com/busca_produtos.php?acao=busca-cat&id=39 I dont know what I should be looking at for a first lens that would be decent enough for what I want. But I am missing something about the cam, is there a better choice other than the D80 around that price range in that site? Sorry about the hundredth thread about a first camera.