First SLR (Canon XTi) - Upgrades for the lens?

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  1. guitarlp

    guitarlp TPF Noob!

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    Hey everyone,

    I'm a complete newb when it comes to SLR's and photography in general so I was hoping someone could help me out.

    I just ordered the Canon Rebel XTi online. It comes with the Canon 18-55mm EF-S Lens. Being the newb that I am, this should be a good starting point. But I've read that the stock lens doesn't have any sort of image stabilization to help with camera shake. So... what alternatives do I have? I don't want to carry around a bunch of lens' wherever I go. I'd like to have 1 good lens that works well in most situations.

    Also, I've read that filters can help protect the lens. Does anyone have any recommendations on a good filter? Or will pretty much any filter work and there's not much of a difference in quality between makes/brands?
     
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    I'd suggest keeping your kit lens for a while. Seeing that your new to it.
     
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    Hmmm, that depends on how much you want to spend.
    Th 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM is quite a nice lens and can be found for around £625. The 24-105 f4 L IS USM is around £600, as is the 70-200 F4 L IS USM.

    Sigma do a stabilised range as well. An 18-200 f3.5-6.3 (£375), an 80-400 f/3.5-4.5 (£890)

    The 24-105 from canon is a great lens, but I've got a couple of Sigmas and I love them. I haven't used any of the ones I've listed above, although I've heard nothing but praise for them.

    Filter wise, if all you are after is a filter to protect the lens, look for a skylight (Hoya make good ones) You'll need one for each lens and they range from about £10 to £30 depending on size.

    Hope that helps
     
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    Get the 50mm f1.8. I regret not getting the XTI over my D40 for the entire reason of the 50 1.8 lens. Suppossed to be really sharp, really fast and, really inexpensive.
     
  5. memento

    memento No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    well, it's really inexpensive anyway.
    when you say fast, i guess you're referring to the big aperture.
    because the auto focus speed is quite slow(and loud).

    but for $80's... ;)



    i agree with Rob.
    learn what your lit lens will do.
    then you'll know what you need/want.
     
  6. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Welcome to the forum and congrats on the new camera.

    The kit lens isn't one of the better ones...but it's not all bad. It gets a lot of bad publicity, mostly (I think) because of how cheap it feels, compared to other lenses.

    As for Image Stabilization...it's nice, but it's not a necessity. It won't do anything to help freeze a moving subject...but a faster shutter speed will. A faster shutter speed will also reduce or eliminate blur from camera shake as well. Often, the max aperture of the lens will limit the shutter speed, which is why a 'fast' lens like the 50mm F1.8 is good...it will allow a much faster shutter speed, which helps to eliminate the blur problem.

    If you have the funds, it might still be a good idea to upgrade from the kit lens. Canon is supposed to have an 18-55 with IS, coming out...but it seems to have been delayed. As mentioned, there is the 17-55 F2.8 IS...great lens, but it costs more than the camera. I have the Canon 17-85mm IS, it's a pretty good upgrade from the kit lens and the IS is pretty good. It still has a smaller max aperture so as long as you don't shoot moving subjects in low light, it's pretty darn good.
    I also have the Tamron 17-50mm F2.8. This is a great lens because it has a max aperture of F2.8 (lower number is bigger) for the whole zoom range. This allows me to get faster shutter speeds, which is why I use this lens for weddings, rather than my 17-85mm IS.

    Other IS options in this range would be the 28-135mm & 24-105mm L IS.

    Nikon has a 50mm F1.8 lens and other prime lenses.
     
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    Yes but since it's AF it would not work with the d40|d40x (it would but losing autofocus).

    I agree with who ever said to go with the 50mm f1.8 (you really can't go wrong)
     
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    I'm a noob too and I am faced with the same decision as guitarlp. What do you think of the Canon 55-250 f/4-5.6 IS. It retails for about 350cdn but usually requires a special order, since I don't think it has been officially released in North America.

    I was originally looking at the Canon 70-200 f4L, but it retails for about 550cdn. I just felt that for a noob the 55-250 would fit better, plus you would get IS and a thicker wallet in the end. Seeing that guitarlp like me doesn't have any filters and probably no tripod, we could get 1 -2 filters a decent tripod and a good lens for the price of the 70-200 f4L


    Sorry if I hijacked your post, just thought if I got feedback on this it would help us both.
     
  9. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Since the 55-250mm isn't out yet...I haven't heard anything about it...so it's hard to comment. From the sounds if it, it will be a mid level or 'consumer level' lens.

    The 70-200 F4L is one of the sharpest zoom lenses avaliable...it will outperform any of the lenses listed so far. If you need that kind of quality, then this lens is actually a great deal. The 70-200 F2.8 L IS, is the ultimate lens in this range but it's much, much more expensive.
     
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    I've been debating with myself on those 2 lenses. Do I give up the extra sharpness in the 70-200, for IS. I know that the 70-200 is a good deal and I don't think that I've seen a bad review on it. Just wondering if its overkill for my skill right now. As for the 55-250, there are more product descriptions/sales pitches than reviews. I also believe that the initial reviews will be by people who are trying to push the lens than actual users.
     
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    Thanks for the replies everyone.

    So a few people are saying get the 50mm f1.8 but someone mentioned it takes a long time to focus and it's loud. $80 is nice... but I was expecting to pay around $400.

    Big Mike mentioned the 17-85mm IS which is about $500 which is ok with me. Is there anything better in this price range for an all-around lens? Should I just go ahead with the 17-85mm IS?
     
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    I just read a few reviews and a couple people seem to be saying the 17-40 f/4L or 24-70 f/2.8L would be a good all around choice. What do you guys think of those two?
     

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