First Wedding Shoot

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  1. mortallis288

    mortallis288 TPF Noob!

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    Here are some of the photos from yesterdays wedding shoot. Please tell me what I did right and what I did wrong. Please be harsh, I loved doing this wedding and I hope to get more later on after i get some better equipment. I got short notice of this wedding, 3 days, and the bride and groom did not want anything special just the normal pictures.

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  2. Yahoozy

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    it seems like they werent ready for the pics when they were taken (the frowns and half-smiles)

    did you do like a "1 2 3 click" or just snap it when they were all together?
     
  3. mortallis288

    mortallis288 TPF Noob!

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    i did 1 2 3 on some of them. The strange thing also was that the bride and groom wanted to keep all the guest in there during the photo shoots to shoot pictures then and not during the ceremony. This was not a very happy bride and groom.

    I was expecting a lot more out of my self, but there was also no communication between the couple and me. I would have to go to the bride's mom to find out anything. I wanted to try to talk to them before the wedding but the bride did not get their until 15 min before the wedding was suppose to start and the groom wasn't there until about 20 mins before the wedding was suppose to start, so any opportunity to talk to them was blown. I did this pro bono because it is family, but I do not know if these are even par or not.
     
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    well it seems like they arent all too great, sorry man
    in the future try a tripod (it seems like these are handheld shots) and pray for a more cooperative couple
    at any rate, you win some you lose some, eh?
     
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    :( This is not an attack on you personally as a photographer, but this is something for everyone who reads this and cannot see what's wrong with these and be able to immediately know how to correct it.


    Your EXIF says you were shooting in manual, only ISO 500, with the aperture stopped down all the time. If you were shooting at ISO 1600 and f/1.8 when using the 50mm, all of the images would be sharp, and well exposed, the background would also be more out of focus, win-win-win!



    The thing that gets me is that everything wrong with these pictures could have been easily avoidable, nobody's ready, or smiling, a quick joke could have made everyone smile, and counting down on all of them would make sure everyone was ready. Also knowing your camera and what the appropriate settings should have been would have made these printable.


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    Was at: 50mm, ISO500, 1/8th, f/4. (not hand-holdable)

    Should have been at~: 50mm, ISO 1600, 1/90th, f/1.8. (hand-holdable, would have been printable, and still properly exposed)




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    Shot at: 50mm, ISO500, 1/30th, f/2.2.

    Should have been at~: 50mm, ISO 1600, 1/180th, f/1.8. (proper exposure, would have been very sharp, easily printable)




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    Shot at: 120mm, ISO500, 1/6th, f/5.6

    Should have been at~: 120mm, ISO1600, 1/15th, f/5.6 [i'm guessing you were using the 18-135 because of the vignetting] try leaning up against something or bring along a tripod/monopod or strobes)




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    Shot at: 66mm, ISO500, 1/4th, f/5.3

    Could have been~: 50mm, ISO 1600, 1/45th, f/1.8 (still not really hand-holdable, but would have been MUCH better if a tripod was used)



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    Shot at: 50mm, ISO500, 1/30th, f/2.2. (obviously not hand-holdable)

    Should have been at~: 50mm, ISO 1600, 1/180th, f/1.8. (proper exposure, would have been very sharp, easily printable)



    These look real shaky resized, on the web on monitors with pixels the size of legos, they're going to look worse printed.

    If you're going to shoot in manual, at least take advantage of it, if the EXIF data didn't say manual mode, I would have guessed it was with the canned program modes judging from the odd exposure numbers.
     
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    thanks so much for the info, i was afraid to jack the ISO up. I shot one time using a high iso and it was grainy as hell. I guess it would have been better than being out of focus.
     
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    switch gives you a good look at how to correct the issues. It's good to get out there and try though for sure! Just play around and see what gets you to that higher shutter speed. :)
     
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    I'm guessing you've never seen ISO 1600 film before.

    Modern digital bodies create incredibly clean images at all ISO's for the most part, the only reason people complain about noise at high ISO's is because they've become so jaded with modern NR techniques.

    Properly exposed, High ISO images are no biggie.
     
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    ahhh, thanks switch. I may see if I can talk to some wedding photographers in my area to become a second shooter/assistant. If they ask have i ever shot a wedding before would you show them some of the ones i have done?

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    Sw1tchFX has given some good advice.

    Your photos aren't necessarily out of focus, but they have blur from camera shake and/or subject movement...this is from too slow of a shutter speed. When shooting (especially indoors), you should always be aware of your shutter speed.
    The rule of thumb for shooting hand held is that you want the shutter speed to be at least as fast as the focal length (reciprocal) of the lens. So with a 50mm lens, you would want to use at least 1/50 (1/60). Also, maybe people feel you should take the crop factor into account, so for a 50mm lens, you should shoot with at least 1/75 of a second. If you have moving subjects, you may want to go even higher...but 1/60 or 1/90 is usually enough to freeze slow moving subjects.

    As mentioned, crank up the ISO if you have to. Noise is better than blur.
    And ISO 1600 on a good DSLR camera isn't that bad...as long as your exposure is good.

    That's your biggest problem but there are others. The background is distracting & rather ugly. This can't be helped for the ceremony but don't take posed shots like that, if it can move them. If you have to shoot in an ugly location...do your best to minimize it. Get close, change your angle etc.

    Their poses are quite bland & unorganized...some of them are too causal (hands in pockets) and in one, the groom looks like he's ready for the firing squad. A quick tip, try not to have them (especially the bride) standing square to you. Have then turn their feet (& bodies) slightly to the side and then turn their heads to look at you.

    Use this as a learning experience and do better next time :)
     
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    I bet those mic stands and music stands are movable. A bit of cropping and cloning would help.

    The last image (family group) might have been composed as a horizontal.

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    You have been given good advice. The other thing is just to remember some good tips on posing. Tell the ladies to put their weight on their 'back' foot as it 'elongates' them (as opposed to "it makes you thinner!") and to hold your shoulders back. Even a very thin individual can look heavier up top when slouching.
     

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