Flash advice & Questions

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  1. lostep3

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    I'm looking to get a flash, I have a Rebel Xti. What you recommend I get. Should I stick with a Canon flash 430ex or 430exII, how do other companies compare like Sunpak etc. I don't know much about flash, I just started reading some books on lighting. I won't to be able to use what ever flash I get off the camera, as a slave at some point to. Thanks
     
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    Think of it as an investment... I was looking at the 430EX II as well, but I decided to go with the 580EX II instead.. mainly because it can be used as a master as well as a slave unit and was only $100 more.. just my opinion.
     
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    I would suggest the 580EX as well, or the 430EX if the first one is out of your budget.
     
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    Remember that the Canon flash was designed to do through the lens metering with the canon dslr's. I think that is what makes them worth the additional investment. As for the decision between the 430 and the 580, that depends. You can always start with a 430 (as I did) and use it as a slave with a 580 later if you get into flash photography more heavily. In addition to being less expensive, the 430 is smaller and lighter.
     
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    Thanks for the advice, I think I'm going to get the 430exII. I wish I could just get the 580, but being in school puts that out of my budget. Thanks again for advice.
     
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    I don't see the 430 as a compromise -- it's an excellent unit. You are going to pay about $75 for the off-camera cord if I remember correctly.
     
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    No, you would need a cord or remote to fire either one off-camera. The difference is that the 580EX can be either a 'master' or a 'slave' (in Canon's wireless system)...while the 430EX can only be a 'slave'. This is really only an issue if you have two flash units, or the non-flash master unit, ST-E2.
     
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    Gotcha, that's what I thought. I know I will only have 1 flash for a while so the 430 seems like a better buy for me right now.
     
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    I have a 430 and it is a pretty good unit. The 580 is clearly a better unit but also a bit more expensive.

    The 580 has better controls, it has a wheel on the back, rather than the crescent buttons that the 430 has. Although, I don't find that I'm pressing the buttons all that often.
    The 580 has a built in bounce card. It's not a deal breaker for the 430 but it's a nice touch.
    The 580 is more powerful, which is great in some situations but the 430 is pretty powerful itself and may be more than enough for you.
     

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