For the Children

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  1. abraxas

    abraxas No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I recieved another email last night from an outfit that, well, here's a portion of it;

    Basically my response consisted of my observation that a lot of people were recieving a paycheck out of this, and that the National Geographic photographers are paid for their work and there is no reason that I should degrade the thousands of dollars and thousands of hours I've spent on my education, research and equipment to save them, a private contractor to the office of education, a few bucks of taxes I've had to pay.

    Crap, a book- that's what they offer?, hell, I already got a book.

    Donate ****. If the kids need a few bucks and want to learn to be stewards of the environment, well send them over and they can wash my car and do some yardwork, I'll give them a book.
     
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    :lol: Yeah and I bet the kids parents have to pay for those books too.
     
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    Lol, what BS. I was basically extorted, forced to take photos for my school's dance. Oh well, it gave me an excuse to buy two SB600s.
     
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    Does not sound like a great idea to donate your image(s). None the less I think it may be worth talking to these folks. You could negotiate a deal that is beneficial to both of you. Everyone is a potential client.

    For some reason the film version of David Mamet's "Glenn Garry Glen Ross" comes to mind. One line in particular "A always B be C closing. Always be closing. ALWAYS BE CLOSING.

    Ok... I'm back now. You get the point.

    Love & Bass
     
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    abraxas No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    :) Well, here's my response-

    Well, if the door slammed shut, the door slammed shut. If I hear back from them, then at least we're talking enough to make it worth the time it takes to jump through the hoops.

    Next time (these happen every few months - meh), I'll probably stick with something like the situation precludes me from donating my work. The usage fee is $xxx.
     
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    I like your reply. Definitely made your position clear. That is a good thing.

    Love & Bass
     
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    abraxas, I think that you response was very professional and considerate. Maybe they will actually make you an offer and/or negotiate for a discounted rate bases on its educational use.

    Or, do you need a tax deduction, and how much would it be worth?
     
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    If they have no intention of paying for the photography then the door was never really open in the first place. I would have done the same. Arnold can give up a few hundred of his wealth for the kids to buy the photo.

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    Yeah considering I heard Cali is giving out IOUs instead of refund checks.
     
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    abraxas, your response is perfectly sensible. But I wouldn't be irate. Maybe it's because I work with government agencies in my own state, which has a budget crisis only slightly less bad than your state's, and I deal on a daily basis with good people who are trying to do a lot with very little. Particularly in school districts. Ain't quarreling with you a bit. Your wonderful work deserves a check. But your state probably can't write one at the moment.
     
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    Thanks for the responses.
     

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