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ewww, that doesn't sound good. It was plenty high enough! Is this at 100 or 50? I'm not familiar with what's available in 4x5 right now, the rumor is the 50 has been/will be reintroduced.My peers who shoot slide film (mostly 4x5 Velvia) are all complaining that the new Velvia has the saturation cranked up even higher than "old" Velvia. Too high in their opinion. They feel it's Fuji trying to compete with digital output.