Gallery Commison/Wall Space Prices Question

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  1. PhilGarber

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    Hi-

    Just today I was able to stop at a local gallery (http://www.gallery23.com) and picked up an application form. Regardless of whether they accept me or not, do you believe their terms are reasonable? They are a co-operative (artists working with artists) business.

    For a 4' x 8' wall space its $40 USD a month. For a 2' x 8' wall space its $20 USD a month. This part of the deal seems reasonable. It's the commission that worries me.

    Since it is a co-op, the commission taken varies with how many hours a month you volunteer to staff the gallery. The commission percentages are as follows:


    Base Commission: 40%

    8 hours work/month 20%

    12 hours work/month 15%

    16 hours work/month 10%

    Since I am only 14, I will not have time to volunteer at the gallery due to school and other activities. And thus, I will be taxed the hefty (at least from my point of view) 40% commission.

    Do you believe that that high of a commission is worth it? I wish to get my photos into the Gallery both for a little extra cash, and to look good on my high-school applications. I will be trying for a full scholarship to both Blair Academy and Morristown-Beard (if anyone cares :razz:).

    Thanks,

    Phil,
     
  2. abraxas

    abraxas No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Well, kudos to you for actually venturing out into the real world to talk to a gallery.


    Pretty simple really; if you don't want to do the time, you have to pay the price.
     
  3. PhilGarber

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    Thanks for the kudos, Abraxas. It isn't really that I'm unwilling to volunteer, that option just isn't available to me at the moment.
     
  4. PhilGarber

    PhilGarber TPF Noob!

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    Any more opinions?
     
  5. Overread

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    The gallery is basically hoping for contributers to put in the work hours to get a better return on images. Don't limit yourself to just one gallery - shop about and see if any others in your area are open for dispaly.
    Also you could consider running your own gallery event in a rented building - often it might be best to combine this with a few other peoples work with an overall theme - it helps cut costs down
     
  6. PushingTin

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    I have a question and sorry to hijack the thread - if you sell one photographic piece that you have on display, are you allowed to print another one and sell it again or is that unethical / not allowed?

    The pricing seems fair to me for what its worth....
     
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    Nope = you can sell it 10, 20 or a 1000 times for home independant use. The only times that you would have to consider would be if:

    1) you sold it to a company and they paid for exclusivity as part of the deal
    2) you state that its one of a limited number of prints - if that is the case you print the limited number and no more (and most people that do would number each print)
    3) any other commercial arrangement made with a company or select models in the shot - again it comes down to what you agree with others - contracts are key since its proof of the agreement.
    4) any legal limitations on the sale of the image - if it was taken on private land with restrictions on photography (say in a zoo) or if you have models or copywrited buidings ot such as a key focus of the shot. This area gets complicated so I can't really go any further indepth into it.

    Other than that reprints would be perfectly fine - its not as if the buyers are purchasing the orginal image anyway - they are getting a printout from the computer.
     
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    Thx overread for clearing that up...
     
  9. PhilGarber

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    Thanks Overread.
     
  10. KmH

    KmH Helping photographers learn to fish Supporting Member

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    Many times with limited editions they are limited by size:

    100 8x10
    50 11x14
    10 16x20
    4 24x36

    As each edition gets near the limit of prints the price per print in that size goes up. That creates a sense of urgency.

    Man, I love photography.........
     

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