Help with photo comp criteria please

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  1. Nojelc

    Nojelc TPF Noob!

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    Hi Guys

    Just joined you in here, so here is your chance to show what a nice lot you are by answering these simple, I am sure, questions.

    I am about to enter a photo comp for the first time, run by a travel magazine and I am not quite sure of some of the requirements.

    For digital images it says "The uninterpolated file size for digital entries should be at a minimum 10MB at 300dpi. I need to submit a print less than A4 and the jpeg.

    Q1 : If I have photos taken on a "5mp camera", i.e. 2592 by 1944 pixels, that is 5038848 pixels, using one byte per color that would be 15,116,544 bytes - i.e 15MB in "raw".
    Also 2592/300 = 8.64, so the long side of any print I submit must be less than 8.64 inches.
    So am I OK? - or have I got it all wrong?

    Q2 : How do I get prints of my 1.333333 aspect ratio images? - If I send them in to printers as they are they always seem to get cropped to fit with the aspect ratio of the paper they use, which is never 1.33333. The rules state that cropping/resizing is not allowed.

    Q3 : Can anyone suggest a good digital photo printing service in the UK to meet my requirements for these prints.

    Thanks in advance
     
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    Hi there,

    Firstly, welcome to the forum! A requirement for a file to be a certain size in MB seems really daft to me - there are plenty of ways to make a file larger which do not increase the quality. Anyway onto your questions:

    1: Sounds right to me

    2: Cropping is not allowed??? How strange. You'll have to print on paper the same aspect ratio as your camera's sensor to comply with the rules then. Or cheat where you've got a number of options, the most obvious is to take a picture which has the potential to be cropped in PS to the size you require. As long as the end file and the print match, they don't really have a way of telling it's cropped.

    3: Snappy Snaps will do all of this for you.

    Rob
     
  3. DocFrankenstein

    DocFrankenstein Clinically Insane?

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    What are you applying to? Sounds like a scam almost...
     
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    No - I do not think so, unless I am being particularly nieve.

    It is in the Wanderlust magazine, details here

    Now I've blown it - you lot will all enter now and beat me to the otherwise assured 1st place that I had :wink:

    Anyway thanks for the advise Rob
     
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    Yeah, it's a "scam". Was looking into somthing similar with a photog friend a while ago with a company I shall not name. Travel companies frequently hold these phoney competitions (well, not actually phoney...) and the winner gets a crap prize and they get all the submitted entries to use in their mag.

    Imagine the scenario - you're going to produce your travel rag for the next year. It's a bit like a holiday brochure. What's the cheapest way of getting unique art work without paying loads? Hold a competition where the top prize is say £500 and a "big" presentation ceremony. Then get all your guillibles together in a room, charge them big style for drinks and say how terribly well they've done. Pat yourself on the back, cos you've got the rights to a bunch of good photographs.

    BTW, looking at certain publications the result is actually crap photos.

    Rob
     
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    Bingo, having looked at the small print - here's the catch:
     

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    Isn't that smallprint kinda standard in a lot of competitions, Rob?

    I've seen several where the orgainser is entitled to use the image for promotional purposes but they aren't all scams.
    I did notice that it states the photographer retains all copyright and permission must be obtained from him/her for any third parties requesting use.
     
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    I don't think so mate... read carefully - "Winners will retain copyright", not "Entrants will retain copyright".
     
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    Well spotted!!

    I wouldn't imagine they'd use a 4th or 5th place shot for promotional purposes but i suppose that one word makes all the difference.

    If they did go for a lower ranked shot for promotion, you'd be up a certain creek without a paddle if you tried to claim royalties from them!
     
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    Yeah, but the mag gets free use.
     
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    Basically the first prize is a crap prize - i.e. one that I am not interested in now that I think about it - a "[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]photographic commission, courtesy of the Canadian Tourism Commission.[/font]"

    It is hard to tell in the following para what is relating to the photos taken on the commission, and what is relating to the photos entered in the comp.

    However the final phrase is "Wanderlust may use any of the photographs free of charge in follow-up features." so that sounds like all the entries and everything taken on the commission.
     
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    it's a bummer when something you think is grat turns out not to be so good.
    However you'll appreciate it more now when you get your first sale or proper commission without having to enter a competition for it.
    Keep clicking and take shots for yourself and you will get a sale - it happened for me!! :thumbup:
     

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