Helping out the Beautiful Brides

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  1. elsaspet

    elsaspet TPF Noob!

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    I didn't want to highjack "The Beautiful Bride" by our friend Tbaraki. I can't really move the lesson over here without the photo either. So if it's ok to do so, or if someone has another photo to use as instruction, let me know.
    Thanks!
     
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    Go ahead and use my image again if you'd like; I think you have a lot to offer the forum.
     
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    Thank you so much. That is very kind of you. I promise that I did not mean to highjack your thread!!!! You did great!
     
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    JIP No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Here let me volunteer an image

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    I'll start again with the original because I deleted my changes due to space constraints on my computer. Therefore, this is going to be slightly different.

    Here are the original eyes:
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    I get easily distracted, so the first thing I did (only focusing on eyes here) was to clone out stray hair, and heal out blemishes. Then on a different layer, I heal out all lines and wrinkles. (I'll bring these back later)
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    3. Here is the result of "liqufy" (found under filters in PS) wherein I have used a very small brush (30 px) on a very large zoom (400 percernt). What I have done was to open the camera left eye a tad, tried to make the eyebrows match, and slightly upturned both eyes, giving them a little more of a youthful look. After the liqify rendered, I brought back some of the natural "crinkle" in the eyes.

    This was only liquify, and so no light or other work was done at this time. It's just to show how liquify is the best weapon of fashion editors. :)
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    Hi Jip,
    You jipped me. LOL. Did you give this to the bride, or is this a test of sorts.
    First of all, no offense, but to have this start on the right foot, you have to find some really boring flat lighting for the bride, and then blast her with fill flash at -1 stops. What we have here is some crazy harsh lighting, making one side of her face totally different than the other, because she's squinting that side of her face.
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    Here, I have tried to bring out some of the bad shadows on the camera right side. Because of the magnitude of fixable stuff on this photo, for time sake, I am cropping right into her face and concentrating on that.
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    Here, all the stray hairs and some of the hair shadows are gone.
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    To make it easier in liquify, I had deleted ALL facial lines on a seperate layer to be brought back after liquify.
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    The following is a very tricky liquify. Don't try this at home....lol. The major problem here is the squinting face, and a harsh division of bright and dark light. I've worked on the camera right of the photo to try to make it match the camera left. Then I worked on the camera left eye to make it more like camera right.
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    Another major problem with combo under/overexposure, is noise. There is a ton of it here, which makes her skin look very blemished, even though it isn't. I have smoothed the skin. That would also be how I would finish out this photo.
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    But in the future, move her to different light, and you won't have nearly the headache. Thanks for letting us use your photo!
     
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    I think it was Jeanette that asked what tools I use.
    The best investments I have are PS3, Boutwell Actions, and Kevin Kutota tools Series 2, although I have literally over a thousand actions and brushes that I have access to.
    If I were to invest in Anything......it would be Boutwell actions and KK#2. There are some killer actions here, such as lights on/off which I use all the time for under, over exposure, digital fill flash, "doll face" and "makeup artist" which is used on every large format photo,-both guys and gals, "prettyiser" which is used on EVERY PHOTO in varying opacities with skin helper added, and for those of us who want super super sharp photos, you can't beat "Amazing Detail Finder" for little things, or Boutwells "Magic Glasses" for an overall sharpening.
    Hope that helps!
     
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    Opps Sorry! THE MOST IMPORTANT TOOL I HAVE is the Wacom Intuit. Pricy for sure, hard to learn, yeah, but once you get it down, it's the BEST TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX!!!!
     
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    Thanks Cindy for always being willing to share and teach. I for one have learnt loads from you and always look forward to your threads & posts.

    That edit on TBaraki's bride was superb.... and once again you shared the 'how tos'... I am really curious of a few things though. Like...
    How many images do your bride/grooms receive and do you process each image to the same degree as this example??? Or do you stick to the closer-up images and really work them, then do less on one where she is further away? And if this is the case, is the p/p of the closeup image not so different from the further away image, that people notice the work???
    Sorry for babbling, but I am truly curious!!!!

    And how many hours p/p do you do on an average wedding - and do you do all the work yourself, or does someone help you out??? I know how busy you are with the actual weddings and wonder how you find the time to do so much great editing??? do you have time to sleep?? x

    sorry for the 100 questions cindy, but looking forward to your response.

    ps... i have a wedding on daydream island this weekend which i am really excited about, but have just heard we are in for some crazy weather!!! aaaaaarrrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! x wish me luck
     
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    Thanks for the thread! I only have one question. How much do you charge to do other people's post processing? :hail:
     
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    Hi Jemmy, no problem.
    On bridals and engagements I do "extreme makeovers" as these prints are normally 20x24 or larger. On weddings I do between slight and medium retouching. It depends on the photo. But if it's really important, I will do a major overhaul. On weddings, I don't do as much personal retouching, but I do a lot of "painting" with light.

    My day always starts at 6 am, and depending on the time of year, I sometimes work a 16 hour day. I've tried assistants, but I'm really freakishly picky. It would make my life so much easier though if I could train someone.
    A normal wedding takes me a full 2 weeks of at least 10 hour days to complete the retouching, the books, and the slideshow. Paperwork and reprints only add to my day, but it's money, so I smile through it. :)
    Hope that helps.
     
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    I wish I had the time!!! Thank you!
     

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