How do you decide what makes a photograph "art?"

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  1. yistigay

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    What are the most important elements that make a photograph "art?"

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    Intent.


    That's pretty much it.
     
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    Can you tell me whats art? What makes something art?

    All photographs are art, photography itself can be seen as an art form. Even things you see everyday around you are art. Everything is designed somewhere isnt it? Your shoes are even art ;)
     
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    I think you are asking about elements that make photos "appealing as art."

    there are so many... important ones are composition and exposure... after that, you can do all kinds of things to a photograph to make it say different things.
     
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    I agree with the poster who said that "intent" makes it art. In terms of what makes it "appealing art", if it evokes some sort of emotional response in me, then I consider it "appealing". The degree of the response dictates the degree of its appeal.

    Well, actually that's not entirely true. I've seen some "art" that has absolutely disgusted me. I did not find those things appealing in the least. I've also seen some "art" that has thoroughly angered me , or saddened me, or anguished me, and I DO consider those to be appealing art.

    I'm interested in what others have to say on this!
     
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    I don't have an emotional response toward just about any photo that I haven't taken myself. I have emotional responses toward more snapshots that I have taken than anything else. I think that a photo that follows certain "rules" or breaks them with a certain intent appeal to me. I like structure, though.
     
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    Hm...

    I guess at a certain level, my aesthetic sense agrees with yours. I just commented on the water drops on a CD thread and there was no emotional response for me. There was, however, a great deal of aesthetic enjoyment. The pic that enjoyed the most, I would have enjoyed more if it had followed the "rules" as I see them.

    Interesting. Defining one's aesthetic sense is difficult... or at least is for me...
     
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    I like the intent concept...but what kind of intent do you think makes something art?
     
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    I don't think "art" can really be defined. If you meant for it to be art, it's art.

    "Art" is made, intentionally. I guess it's possible to make art accidentally though. Everyone gets lucky sometimes. Better to be lucky than good, right?

    Damn...now even my original "intent" response seems wrong...lol. Maybe "desire" would be better...? If you want it to be art, it is.
     
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    I have a sense that generally speaking, art is something that we know when we see. We'd probably mostly all be in agreement if we put up 5 images and decided together if we should label them art or not...I'm just not sure we'd be able to define why...so the why is my big question.
     
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    Just the intent to create something more than just fodder for the family photo album. But even that (fodder...) might look like art to other people...

    There are two different perspectives here - that of the creator, and that of the viewer. "Art" will not necessarily be the same thing to them.

    For the creator, I'll go with intent. With the exception of "accidental art".
    For the viewer......? Who knows... There's no way to know what other people are thinking.
     
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    I agree. Just for fun, I looked it up in the dictionary...

    I actually like this definition:

     

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