How important is a live view?

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  1. Frankp

    Frankp TPF Noob!

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    I'm torn between the Sony alpha 200 and the alpha 300. One difference is that the 200 does not have a live view lcd but it does have a better viewfinder. It is the opposite with the a300. Both are on special today with two lens...a200 is $549 and the a300 is $599. I really have been impressed with the Sony cameras from what I've seen and read. Any advice between the two? Also, does anyone think I am waaaayyyy off base and need to consider another brand/model.

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    personally i think the live view is useless, i love using the viewfinder, i just find it more comfortable and on the plus side no live view= longer battery life
     
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    I find that its far easier to hold a camera steady and well when using the viewfinder rather than liveview - having the lens close to you means you have the added stability of your face and also the fact that your arms are not extended and thus are able to hold it more steadily.
    Further DSLRs tend to end up way more heavy than a point and shoot - especialy if you start using quality lenses and also longer focal length ones - with that in mind its just too much weight to hold out at arms length to use liveview.
    Point and shoots are find because they are very light by design and thus don't have the same limiation.

    Go for the alpha 200 if the only difference were liveview I would say it did not matter, but if the viewfinder is brighter then that can make a lot of difference
     
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    I'm a relative newcomer to photography and so had nothing invested in older technology, equipment or techniques. I bought a Canon XTI and within two months bought a Sony A350 for the Live View and body IS. I use the Live View about 70% of the time and would really hate to be without it. I know that everybody has different styles and needs, but I see Live View as another tool that helps me get the shot and really don't understand those who would not be willing to learn how to use a new tool. I have some really nice shots (for me) that I simply would not have without it. - TF
     
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    I think "live view" is helpful in the studio or when using a tripod, but for handheld shots, IMHO it is useless.

    Dave
     
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    I look forward to using it on my new K20D body I'm getting tomorrow, but only for tripod shots at odd angles- where I won't have to contort quite as much to see the frame. But I wouldn't assign much worth to live view in general- sort of a gimmick...
     
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    I agree with Captain, I like live view on the tripod for general set up but then switch to the finder, beyond that I never use it. The one great thing about the view finder is that it isolates your concentration to only the contents of the frame.

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    Live view can come in handy in a case where you have a crowd in front of you and a decent shot can't be achieved through the finder, switch it on, hold it over their heads, check the live v shot and hit the shutter. H
     
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    I started to reply to this post that I really enjoyed using "live view" with my old TLRs and view cameras, but hadn't had the chance to use a DSLR with live view. Then it occurred to me that I own a Canon 40D which has live view, and I've never used that function. So I guess I must not think it's very important seeing that I forgot it's a feature on one of the cameras I own and use all the time. ;) Maybe I should try it out. I think it would be even more handy with a movable LCD. I think it would be most useful for me using it when I'm holding the camera above my head, or down by my feet.
     
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    Live Preview can have lots of advantages. If you're use to a point-n-shoot, then it will feel natural for you. It is good for setup shots where you can quickly and easily see your composition and make adjustments as necessary (hence the reference to using a tripod above). However, I believe that it's the next model Sony up that has the movable / flippable screen which is one of the strongest advantages. That allows you to get shots you may not otherwise.

    One example is being able to walk around with the screen flipped up so you can hold the camera at waist level, taking all kinds of candid shots as most folks will not think your are taking photos since the camera is not at eye level. Great for parties and other events.

    Flipped down allows you to get shoots when you are stuck in a crowd. With it down, you can hold the camera over your head and see what you are shooting instead of guessing.

    And, it allows you to take very awkward position shots much easier. Laying on the ground may not be an option to take low shots (mud, water, etc.), but with the screen flipped up, you can just bend over instead. Reaching thru / around obstacle(s) is another advantage (like thru tree limbs to get a nature shot or the like).

    Finally, Sony has an advantage of virtually instant response time due to the use of two sensors (one for the shot, one for live preview) where most others use a mirror flip scheme which can be up to a second lag or so.

    (It might even come in real handy for surveillance photos too, I'd imagine.)
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  11. gryphonslair99

    gryphonslair99 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    This is why in most cases live view is wasted in on a DSLR.

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    body & 70-200
    Not really a combo that works well at arms length.

    Neither is this.
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    body & 24-70

    A DSLR is not really built to be held at arms length looking at a view screen like a small lightweight point and shoot. Even with small glass such as a 50mm. It is designed so that you stabilize the thing with your left hand and control it with your right hand looking through the viewfinder.

    Live view can be useful in limited application such as macro on a solid support such as a tripod or when ever you have solid support and a non moving subject. Live view however is not something that should make or break a camera purchase as it is truely a minor feature in the DSLR world.
     
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    Maybe for that nice setup you have, but the OP is talking about a Sony. I'm not a betting person, but "I'd bet" that a Sony 300 with a 200mm zoom on it weighs a small fraction of your setup in the first post. I was just down at Best Buy and I played with one, and it is very light and compact in size. It was very comfortable to hold out, up, or down. Not too much more than one of those mega-zoom P&S units. It's an oranges to apples comparison to a Sony.
     

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