Hummingbird moth? and butterfly for cc

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  1. hopdaddy

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    Any of your thoughts would be appreciated ,comp,lighting,..all aspects of the photos.....basicly what would you have done different? ,to have made a better photograph?Camera:Nikon D90Exposure:0.004 sec (1/250)Aperture:f/4.8Focal Length:105 mmISO Speed:400Exposure Bias:0 EVFlash:No Flash

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    Looks like a pipevine swallowtail and yes...hummingbird moth. You are going to need a much faster shutter speed or a flash to get sharp images of these two. A tripod might help with the swallowtail, but won't help much with the Hum Moth as they are in constant motion so you need to freeze the action with a flash or with a really fast shutter speed.
     
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    Nice framing and composition.

    Both seem to suffer from too little depth of field. It would be nice to have the upper wing on the butterfly in focus too. You could have sacrificed some shutter speed for that (1/125th should have been ok).

    In the second shot, focus has caught little more than 50% of the hummingbird, and not much of the flower. As there's lots of fast movement here, a bump in ISO would have given you another stop down on the aperture (f/4). It might not have been enough, but it would have helped.

    Still, pretty good! :thumbup:
     
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    Thanks for the help guys,
    Nate,I haven't purchased a flash yet,and as a general rule don't use the pop-up flash......should I start,or just tackle that after the flash is bought?

    Mr.Barney thanks for the input,it is appreciated much

    PS. this is a new lens for me,105mm sig......still learning:confused:
     
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    I've taken shots of hummingbird moths, I prefer the motion of the wings as you have captured. Maybe alittle more dof I think, but not much more. Good capture.:thumbup:
     
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    Thanks VTF,
    do you ever use flash as Nate advised?I've heard this before,but understand little of the intricate parts ...in other words,just add the flash?or is there a good,better,best setting to stop motion?

    I assume add flash with the highest possible ss
     
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    I have used the onboard flash but generally prefer the motion to the wings. Mine were done in the morning hours and I went with natural lighting and higher shutter.
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    I prefer the motion tho.
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    Hmmm,your exif data is not available on these:(care to share how high you ss was?..........or in general for stopping the wing motion,how fast will a shutter speed need to be?

    thanks for the help
     
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    F5, shutter 1/3200, iso @1600 on all, I was lucky on the one to stop it in motion but if you use flash it will help, I just havent done it myself yet.
    These were taken when I was really new to my camera, today iso would not be so high, made some noise.
     
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    You mean a hummingbird moth is a real thing o_O I seriously thought that was a typo. Sorry for the completely off topic post, but that is how astounded I am.
     
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    There are only three species that move their wings so fast. One is the hummingbird moth, one is a bat and then the hummingbird.
     
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    Wow. I feel like I need to take another course on animals and insects because I have a lot to learn.
     

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