first, i really don't like these threads, but i'm real stuck. i've had a lot of coffee, too, so some of this may not be coherent. i used the 17-55 months ago (only for about an hour, though) on a d300. i liked the weight and overall feel - except the physical size of the hood - it's a monster. i wasn't impressed with the focusing, it seemed to wander A LOT for a seemingly decently-lit mall. seemed like there was a lack of clarity too. leads me to think that i was using a bad sample, but a nikon rep was who had given it to me to try - you'd hope a rep wouldn't have a bad sample, but they only know the paperwork inside out, not much else. the other thing was the zoom ring. it's almost touching the body, i'm sure i'd get over that quickly, but it seems awkward. unfortunately, no one in town has a 14-24 in stock, and i don't know anyone that owns one (in this part of the world, anyway). so it's pretty hard to judge the feel of this. but i think it's slightly heavier/larger than the 17-55. examples posted on the net have, mostly, been pretty stellar. the reason i want one of the two isn't really about the working range or their light gathering abilities. i'm after reliable focus and good clarity, mainly. there are a few pros and cons though.. pros 17-55 - used to this range. - wouldn't likely need my 20/2.8, 35/2 MAYBE not even the 50/1.4 (less change-ups) - price (at cost it's about $1250, probably a little less) - easy to get cons - i'm VERY hesitant about dx glass. when fx is affordable, dx is out. - my experiances with it (haha) pros 14-24 - wiiider - seems like better overall IQ - will work well with future fx bodies. - different range could bring about different/interesting techniques. (not counting on this) cons - probably not the greatest for portraits. - price (although it's not a huge leap. not sure if i can get this at cost either. if not, it's going to be almost 800-900 dollars difference between the 17-55) - that front element. no filters? at least a UV would seem reasonable to protect the damned thing. - availability lastly, i'm shooting a lot of action and portraits. weddings, shows, press kits/ band labels, and editorial stuff. it's not that i need a burst of 8 imgs at 14mm in 1 second. i need (like i said) reliable and quick af. this is going to be replacing my (retired) 18-70, 20/2.8 and 35/2. what i'm aiming for is the 14-24 or 17-55 on my d80 and my 85/1.4 & 135/2 on the d300. sorry, i realize that was a lot to read. any guidance would be nice. thanks for reading.