I solved a mystery.

davidharmier60

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I said 30 seconds at F8 for some night pictures. But the AE-1 only goes down to 2 seconds. Had me head scratching.
The EOS650 does indeed have a 30 second setting. So that's obviously the camera I used. Makes me feel better.

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Anything over two or three seconds you can time with your smart phone timer. One hand on the phone, the other on the shutter button or cable release.
 
Once I set up the shoot I let the timer on the camera do it's thing. I would never have touched the shutter button and never had a cable release.

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.. and never had a cable release.
You should get one. They're not expensive. While I was buying a Nikon-branded one (for $15) I saw another offer for a third-party make for $3. So I bought that one too. The cheap one works exactly like the expensive one.
 
My AE-1 has become finicky. And the EOS650 doesn't need one.
And I'm trying to save every penny to get at least a Canon 20D and hopefully a 40D.

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