In the market to change my camera need help

[andy grego]

hi everyone
New to here but already need help

I have had a 7d for some years now after moving from a 10d years ago

I tend to take photos of wildlife and sport
And also use for family shots as well but not much

I been thinking of the 7d mark 2
But there is so much more choices now from when I brought my 7d

5dr 5drs
5d mark 4
6d
Nikon 750
Nikon 810

Any help would really help

I would not like to brake my bank
But just want the right choice


Thanks for anyone's time

 

[Derrel]

Your current investment in Canon gear, and a total budget for the move/upgrade would be helpful to know. Are you open to used or refurbished cameras? In Canon, the APS-C lenses (the EF-S lenses) are useless on Canon's full-frame cameras. In Nikon, their APS-C lenses ( the DX-Nikkor series) are usable on their FX bodies, so the lenses you currently own could play a big part in the nexrt camera brand and model!

 

[andy grego]

Budget is not set yet
But just want the right choice for the pictures I take

today a shop said to get the 7d mark to
As the crop sensor would be better for the wildlife
But some one else said get the Nikon as with the full frame can be cropped to get the close up shots
That I would get with the crop sensor

I have got a few efs lens
And one ef lens
And a one l series 100 400

 

[Derrel]

A 7D Mark II seems like the easiest move, to me, esp.for wildlife/sports type shooting- it would keep your lenses performing the way you are used to, but with probably some better AF performance on the 7D-II.

I am not super-impressed with the 7D-II's fine detail rendering in this, the era of 24-MP APS-C cameras, but it does have good noise suppression, and good focusing, and it shoots fast, and has a big buffer. It just seems like it's been optimizd for High-ISO use and low noise, but not all "that high" of a resolution.

I'm a Nikon guy now, so I really do not want to advocate for them and the D750, nor for a D800 used at $1600, nor a D810. What about the new EOS 77D or EOS 80D? Higher megapixel level, I think better fine detail than the 7D-Mark II...not sure what you mean by wildlife and sports, those are extremely broad categories. Maybe you want the fast frame rate and strong AF of the 7D-II?

The Canon 6D is getting older now--and I think might be supplanted by a newer camera within 6 months, so...I dunno what to say except buying another Canon will keep you in the Canon camp, and for some reason I think Canon is about ready to drop a 7D-II update/new model to compete with the Nikon D500. Or maybe ready to announce a 6D upgrade/update to compete with the Nikon D750 as an inexpensive pro wedding/family/portrait biz camera.

I guess what I am saying is it is rather far along in the product cycles for the 6D and the 7D-II to make a buying decision right now, at the end of Q-1 2017. I think I might wait until the NEXT cycle is announced, and then decide which way to move.

 

[andy grego]

Wild life is broad I know
Birds in flight and still in tress etc
Otters ducks
Insects dragon flies
And zoos animals

Sports bmx racing
Motor sports

I did think of waiting

But a Friend of mine has just got the 810 for wildlife not seen it yet but he had the 750 before
He dropped it

 

[goooner]

I also shoot wildlife/birds. I made the Nikon switch a little more than a year ago, and have not looked back. That was before the 80d and 77d? came out for canon. The 7DII was too expensive for me, and I loved the value of the d7200 offered. I must admit that I did not have expensive Canon glass. I have since invested in better glass for my nikon so there is no turning back now.

With your lenses the 80d, or the newer 77d? (not sure about the name), sound like great options. Use the money saved on a 7DII and invest in better glass.

 

[goodguy]

7D II is a good camera but I did hear of some AF issues with it from time to time.

Best sports camera in the market in APS-C is Nikon D500, nothing touches it in its price range for this task.

 

[andy grego]

this is my problem
i dont know if to switch brand or stay with canon
i love my 7d but had it 9 years now
need to change
but do i start over and go nikon
do i go full frame
etc etc
i know crop sensor gives my more zoom on my lens 1.5 x

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[PhotoRob06]

One thing to note about Nikon (and I can't speak for Canon) is the autofocus tracking technology has significantly progressed. I was blown away by how the individual points will track and recognize color for target ID. Maybe I wouldn't trust it at razor thin depth of field, but for sports it would be great. D810 has this.

But don't let the MP of D810 completely seduce you. Larger photosites have greater high ISO performance, which could be really desirable for sports. At ISO 400, yes, you'll have crazy resolution, but crank it to 6400, and you will see more noise than with a D3 - I can personally attest to this.

 

[PhotoRob06]

this is my problem
i dont know if to switch brand or stay with canon
i love my 7d but had it 9 years now
need to change
but do i start over and go nikon
do i go full frame
etc etc
i know crop sensor gives my more zoom on my lens 1.5 x

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Unless you're already invested in those crop frame lenses, I would go full frame. A smaller sensor with full frame lens basically amounts to a digital zoom. If that's what you want, just crop your photos after. But you will see better low light performance with a full frame sensor, and use wider angle lenses (to their actual focal length).

 

[astroNikon]

No budget ... get all of them then you'll be set for anything.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Here's my take. I had a canon digital rebel xti since it came out. Along with it I had the kit 18-55, a 50mm 1.8 and a 75-300 ii. All non IS. I had only bought an 80D as a upgrade and the reason I bought it was to upgrade my body but I bought canon because I had the lenses already. I sold my entire kit and was left with 4 new lenses, an 80d and a battery grip, all canon except for one lens. I wish I went Nikon knowing in 3 months I would aquire a while new kit, but I am very happy with what I have now. Figure out the brand you want Abe go from there. Efs lenses can only be used on a crop body camera so you're limited to that. If you can sell off all the kit and buy the Nikon you want, do so. If you want to slowly upgrade your lenses, get a body and go from there in canon. 5d iv gets my vote if money isn't an issue.

 

[Solarflare]

The 7D is a specialist for wildlife and sports. The most obvious pick for a successor would be the 7D2.

I would definitely and strongly advise against the 5Ds unless you want to completely change your photograhic focus. The high resolution of the 5Ds very quickly diminishes at higher ISOs. It thinks its the classic case of an overengineered product.

I would also advise against the 6D. Its not a bad camera at all, but it has a rather simple Autofocus. Not what anyone would want for wildlife and sports.

I see no real issue with the 5D Mark IV or the predecessor Mark III.

If you want to stay with Canon, my personal favorite would probably be the 1D X. I dont know how much used prices have fallen for this one now, but that would be a great performer.



If you move to Nikon for "you can just magnify", you probably talk about the Nikon D810. The D810 is a great all around generalist camera and can be used for sports as well, including having an top of the line autofocus (when it was released, anway, not the new gen that came out with the D5 and D500), but overall its more optimzed for towards high resolution and high image quality, not fps and buffer and high ISO. And yes it has 36 Megapixels at full frame 36x24mm and quite useable 15 Megapixels at APS-C 24x16mm, so that part isnt wrong.

The D750 would be another option for this. It has basically the same autofocus (slightly better actally, which can be very visible in certain extreme situations; for example it can handle lenses with a maximum aperture of f/9, while the D810 cannot handle more than f/8), not much higher fps and not much more buffer either. Its cheap though and its a very fun camera to use with its flipscreen, small size, good grip etc.

My personal favorite for your selection of photographic themes would be the recent masterpiece from Nikon, the D500, with the AF-S 200-500mm f5.6 VR and probably also the brand new Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 VC "G2". That would be an extremely fun combo, at 10fps for 20 sec (with fastest XQD cards; the 20 sec stop is software limit only, you just have to release the shutter release for a moment, then press it again for another 20 sec at 10 fps), AF over all the image area (only small bands on top and bottom of the landscape view arent covered), extreme autofocus performance and extreme high ISO (though the really useable ISOs end around 50k). That would already be about $4600 though.

Obviously there would also be the D4s and its predecessors.

I would advise against the D600 and D610 for the same reasons as the Canon 6D: rather simple autofocus. I mean OK its better than the 6D, and I had that camera and its not awful for sports, but there is better out there to have.


Oh, and switching to full frame you probably want one of the extreme telephoto lenses out there, like the Tamron 150-600mm f5-6.3. Or the AF-S 200-500mm f5.6 VR. I understand that Canon has an extremely expensive 200-400 with builtin 1.4x extender, but my guess thats not an option (and for that price I'm not conviced its worth it, either).