Is AiS the same as AF-S..? saw a Nikkor 50mm 1.4

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  1. giorgio

    giorgio TPF Noob!

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    Hi

    I'm checking the Nikkor 50mm f/1.4
    There some used Nikkor lenses that just say:

    Nikon 50 1.4 Ais Lens
    or
    Nikon 50 1.4 Ai Lens


    I mean... what the..., which of the 1.4D AF and 1.4G AF-S is it?
    Does "Ais" means that is the 1.4G AF-S ?
    Does "Ai" means also the 1.4G AF-S ?

    I searched what AiS means but I haven't yet found it, I'll keep looking

    I'm guessing that if is a Nikkor50mm 1.4 it only can be one of these two right?:
    1.4D AF or 1.4G AF-S

    I have never bought used lenses before.

    A used 50mm 1.4 Ais (suposedly excelent condition) for 150.00usd is good right? if it happens to be the AF-S I supose.


    Any opinion?

    thank you

     
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    Ai is a manual focusing Nikkor lens, made from around 1977 to 1983 or so, depending on each specific lens model. The "Ai" lens was an Automatic maximum aperture Indexing lens for the first generation of Nikon bodies that used the "Ai" system, like the Nikon F2-A, Nikon EL-2, Nikon FE,etc.

    After the Ai series came the Ai-S series, which had a "Speed" notch milled into the rear mount. The "S" feature was first used for the Nikon FA's programmed automatic mode which shifted the shutter speeds higher on longer focal length lenses. This "speed notch" is a milled semi-circular depression on the rear of the lens at the 9 o'clock position, just below one of the mounting lugs. Ai-S lenses have been made from the early 1980's until 2010.

    An AF-D is an Autofocus, D-chipped lens. AF was the first AF system beginning in the mid-1980's. The D-chip technology was added in the early 1990's. There were 50mm 1.8 AF, then 1.8 AF-D lenses made for many years. This is the lowest-cost of the modern 50mm autofocus lenses. AF and AF-D lenses will NOT autofocus on the D40,D40x,D60,D3000, or D5000.

    There have been 50mm f/1.4 AF and then AF-D lenses made from the mid 1980's until 2009. The 50mm 1.4 AF-D is still available brand new.

    AF-S is Autofocusing Silent-Wave motor--the very newest Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 is an AF-S lens with a G-series design--meaning no aperture ring.
     
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    (Derrel thanks.., I typed this post before seeing yours, I'll read it then)
    Oh!, hmm.., according to my search...
    "AiS" is old manual technology??

    So there are AI, AIS, AF and AF-S... ?

    wow..., have to make sure not to make a mistake.
     
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    Thank you very much for the info, very useful specially when I'm about to slip the card, need to choose wisely.

    At first was thinking of a 50 1.8 AF, then the 50 1.4, and now I'm checking if I found some good deal for the 50 1.4 AF-S, which I hope it offers better Image quality besides the practicity of Silent Autofocus and Speed..., which I'm about to investigate its features over the DAF.
     
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    If you have D80, I don't think your camera will recognize AiS lens... at least I know that the D90 doesn't.
     
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    Correct. When in doubt, be sure to check a Nikon lens compatibility chart: Nikon Lens Compatibility
     
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    thank you, but just found out what AiS means..., no worries, it has been discarded.

    :thumbup:
     
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    Interesting tests I found here about the 50mm's 1.4D vs 1.4G on a D80(like mine)

    BTW..., some webstores point some links to "reviews" of these lenses...
    Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D AF
    Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G AF-S
    Sigma 50mm f/1.4

    But, these don't seem like reviews.., they just explain what the product seems to offer..., unless ofcourse those are the types of reviews they do, which is ok and valid..., like... "...according to Nikon, this improves correction of off-axis aberrations, which promises better performance towards the edges of the frame particularly when using large apertures." ...ok.
     
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    KmH Helping photographers learn to fish Supporting Member

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    Don't leave out AF-I
     
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    Try SLRgear.com:

    Nikon Lens: Primes - Nikon 50mm f/1.4D AF Nikkor (Tested) - SLRgear.com!
    Nikon Lens: Primes - Nikon 50mm f/1.4G AF-S Nikkor (Tested) - SLRgear.com!
    Sigma Lens: Primes - Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM (Tested) - SLRgear.com!
     
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    AIS lenses will work on your d90, and take as good of photos as far more expensive AF-S lenses. You'll just be limited to manual metering and manual focusing.

    This actually isn't that big of deal for "special purpose" lenses like macro, but for a 50mm prime, you'll want autofocus.

    If you ever become interested in macro lenses you may reconsider your avoidance of AIS, macro photography is often best done fully manually anyway; and you can buy a 105mm ais f2.8 lens for 1/3rd the price of the same quality AF lens.
     
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    Can the sub-D200 Nikon bodies do stop-down metering like the Canons can do? With the Canons (at least the mid-level models like 10D+) I think you can use aperture priority mode with non-Canon lenses even though they can't communicate with the body, and the body meters off of the lens at whatever aperture it's set to (can't use G type lenses that don't have the aperture ring).
     

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