Is cropping..... bad?

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  1. hammy

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    I always try and frame while I shoot. Sometimes I can make shots look really good by cropping. But is it wrong? Something in me seems like it's hiding something else that should be there. I don't really know. What do you think ?
     
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    not at all... I think cropping is really useful to bring out certain areas of a photo you want to. :)
     
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    Why would you think cropping is bad?
     
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    I was taught to always try to get the composition I wanted "in camera" to eliminate the need for cropping, either in the darkroom or on the PC. I happen to love the look of a silver gelatin image printed full bleed - so I make a conscious effort to get the negative exactly the way I envision the final print.

    Is it always necessary? Nope. Will it always work? Nope. Is there anything inherently wrong with cropping after the fact? Nope.

    So, I don't sweat it at all. It's more personal preference, I think. The happier I am with what I get straight from the camera, the less I have to work with it later (unless I plan to use the transparency for some alternative process, but that's another story). That's just my personal comfort zone. :)
     
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    I always try and get the cropping I want in the camera when I first take the photo. But sometimes with either zoom restrictions, or the subject just being a pain in the proverbial, ya need to do cropping later on.

    I don't think there's really any 'ethical' issue about it imo, well unless of course, you're cutting something out that completely changes the story/meaning of the photo.
     
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    Sometimes the aspect ratio of the negative doesn't lend itself to a good composition. Sometimes an 8x10 is more pleasing than an 8x12, for a particular scene. I think your goal should be presenting the best image you can.
     
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    If you really want to challenge yourself then try to get the crop and everything else right in the camera.


    If you just want the photograph then cropping and post editing are fine.

    It's really just a personal choice and when it's just a hobby you set your own standards. :D
     
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    I just grew up in a family of film photographers, but then there's also cropping in the darkroom so that doesn't really explain it. I don't know, but I guess it really IS ok.
     
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    Well, in some photo classes, instructors tell you to crop in camera because it helps you learn composition and gives you better quality when using 35mm.

    One thing to keep in mind is that you created the picture. Whether you change the story or not is up to you and you can change it or not to suit your own purpose. The photography has just started when you take the picture.
     
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    you didnt specify film or digital.

    using film i would place more importance on camera composition than i would using digital.
    i also think cropping to good composition in processing would be just as challenging as doing it with the camera

    :sun:
     
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    i agree mostly, although i think it's easier to crop and frame afterwards since you have more time to do it, and youve thought about how you want it to look. I try to never crop my images now, and so far it's going fairly well. I only crop them if i absolutely have to, or if i couldnt acheive a certain perspective or composition with the equipment or vantage point I had at the time. I dont have a problem with cropping unless it's silly cropping that doesnt help the composition and seems to be just cropped for the sake of being cropped. a full framed negative always impresses me somehow, although it's not as big a deal with digital for some reason.
     
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    When I was in art school, we had the pleasure of having Arnold Newman come and give a talk. In a way he touched on this. Near the beginning of his speech he showed a slide of his famous photograph of Pablo Picasso. I am sure you know the one, just do a google of Arnold Newman and you will know which one I mean. Near the end of his talk he showed a slide of just an eye. He asked us who is this. We all replied Pablo Picasso. He asked, "How do you know this is Picasso? it is just an eye." He went on to say something about it is our vision as photographers that we are portraying.
    Your finished product is not the negative or positive that you create when you take the picture. The finished product is the image that you create from that negative, positive, digital file, combination there of.
    BE THE CREATORS OF YOUR IMAGES.
     

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