i just thought i would chime in after an experience i recently had. I have been shooting around the port of long beach for a bit now and never had any problems. I have only shot there at night. the last time i was down there i was just shooting a pic of the queen mary and the spruce goose dome when all of the sudden three...THREE! port police cars pulled up. im just out there with my tripod and an old canon f1. the police told me that i could not shoot there and i would have to obtain a permit. this just sounded rediculous to me, i thought that i could take a photo anywhere i wanted. (note: i didnt enter any gates or pass any sort of security, just pulled off of the road as any joe schmoe could.) I guess im just venting but now i have to get the permit just for the sole reason to go back and shoot like a freak and make sure that they see me! ***oh, if you want to see some great photos of the port at night check out some of Tom Paiva's work. it is exceptional.