make-over shoot

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  1. jemmy

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    Hi guys...back again:greenpbl: Anyway this time i am wanting critique & comments on a little idea of mine. Basically i am in the process of setting up a small home based portraiture business.... nothing huge (so don't stress!!!), just friends, family and the good old word-of-mouth thing... So as well as general portraits, i am also wanting to offer make-over shoots..... Kinda like 'glamour photography' without all the satin, big hair and soft lenses! Am struggling with what i should call it????? I think if i say 'glamour photography' people will automatically think of the above.... I did make-up artistry for a few years and also love hairstyling, hence why i thought of offering this. Pretty much helping people look their best in a fun model-style portrait shoot?? Any ideas???? Especially on what to call it appreciated!!!! Here is my first attempt...

    #1.. the 'before' shot xx
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    #3...taken inside using a canon 420?ex speedlight flash, bounced off ceiling... kinda looked too dark to me - i dont like the overall colour - but i really suck at flash photography so not sure! Give me some natural light anyday!!!
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    #4...same here, bounce flash
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    #5...natural window light
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    #6...the sun kept sneaking in & out from behind clouds and was pretty bright in this one.... really liked it in b&w - a bit 'magaziney' ? though but not sure if it is 'acceptable' in the professional world???
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    #7...i suppose this one is too dark but for some reason it is one of my favourites? not sure why or if the nose shadow bothers me too much, just something about it that i love??!!
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    All of these pics were shot using my Canon 350D with 50mm 1.8lens... Full manual mode, shot in raw and converted using my zoombrowser software... some photoshopping done but must ask Mommyof4boys what tools she uses to airbrush!! Thanks for looking and for any feedback:heart:
     
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    is this the same person like the first pic? wow, can`t believe it *what make-up makes*... great pics ... my favorite is 5 and 6 ... 5 could be a little more sharpness ...
     
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    Just some quick thoughts:

    I like #2, but I would crop it down some. It feels a bit unbalanced, probably because her eyes are right on the horizontal midline.

    In #3 and #4 the bounce flash isn't working for me. I looks like the light is coming from a ceiling light. I would either try turning it down or shooting vertical and bouncing off a wall.

    I like #5. I'd try a sharpening filter on it.

    #6 is way too blown out for me. High key can be nice, but it's tricky. The shading on the side of her face and her faded lips just make me thing "blown" instead.

    #7 is interesting. I think I'd rather see her facing into the frame rather than out of it. She also seems to be squinting a bit.

    In most of them, it seems like the camera is just above her eye level or more. I'd like to see some of them right even. #1 seems even, but that one doesn't count. ;) #6 might be, but it's hard to tell. Her head is even with the camera, but it looks like she might be looking up.
     
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    Anyone else???? I can take it! :.) xx
     
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    You did a fantastic job on her make over:) My favorites are #3 and #5 because she just looks more natural in those. I like her smiling better than when she's not. You may want to try a bit of a softening effect for her skin so you can't see the pores as well. (I HATE when you can see every one of my pores in my own photographs). Great job!
     
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    Thanks April... any specific advice on removing pores??? She has got quite large pores and i used the 'bandaid' (cant remember what its name is!!) tool on the bigger ones - bloody time consuming ~ there must be an easier way????? xx I did have more of her smiling but, knowing her, she will prefer the non-smiling ones, hence why i posted more of the 'modelish' ones... thanks again xx And can i be a pain and ask for a comment on the last photo?? I still like it for some unknown reason but not sure if it is 'really' any good at all?????????????? xx
     
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    To remove poors, you might try something like neat image which removes grain from pictures. I use it quite a bit when I photograph my daughter. I use it b/c she is still rather bald and has some pronounced veins on her forehead and neat image tends to soften it up a bit.
     
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    A quick easy retouching tip is to duplicate the background layer, run a dust and scratches filter on it, about 10 -20 pixels, and then set the layer opacity to about 50% to start. Add a layer mask and mask it off to just the face, leaving out the eyes, eyebrows, lips, and edges around the nose. Adjust the opacity as desired.
     
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    I use the gaussen blur tool in Photoshop, but go by that... I'm completely self-taught.

    It may be that you like the last one because it has directional lighting. The ratio is too strong, but there is some modeling... some shaping.

    Now for the hard part. My first reaction was... I like the "before shot" best. Number 5 is nearly good. I think if you retouch under the eyes, it will be mostly good.

    I think my problem with the series is mostly the lighting. It's just not flattering lighting for a modle like her. Sorry. I'm happy to offer some more direction, but nearly every shot has different concerns.

    And, MY feelings are the first, best improvement would be a longer lens.... twice as long. A normal lens is just too short for shooting people, especially less than perfect people and in sooo close.

    I hope this helps.

    Pete
     
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    Yeah... yeah! This is just the way I use the gaussen blur tool. I'll have to try the dust tool now.

    Thanks, Matt.
     
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    No problem Pete. I actually do it slightly different, and you might like this. I leave the layer at 100% opacity, and after making the mask, fill it with 100% black to completely mask it off. Then I use a middle gray brush to pain the effect on, which in effect gives it a 50% opacity. The nice thing about that is that you can change the tone of your brush to a lighter or darker gray and selectively change the opacity for different parts of the face. I usually will do the face a bit stronger than I would do hands or arms. Sometimes under the eyes might need a bit more, and you can easily customize it that way.
     
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