Mamiya 645 afd for first MF camera?

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  1. supermarvin76

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    I am moving from digital to MF. I have thought about buying a "classic" camera such as the Mamiya RB 67, but I am trying to be honest with myself... I don't know if I have the patients for one like that.

    I am looking at a used Mamiya 645 AFD from KEH, and would like to hear thoughts about this.

    Also, any other tips / info about entering MF would be great. Thank you!
     
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    dxqcanada Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Ah, exactly what do you want from an MF camera.
    I see you want to jump right into medium format.

    The Mamiya 645 AFD offers auto focusing and digital ... I assume you are intending to use it with manual focus lenses and a film back ?
     
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    There's really not much more patience required for an RB/RZ than for an AFD. As indicated above, it's really a matter of what you want from your MF gear. I went with a 645 AFD because I want the versatility to easily alternate between film and digital and because given the current state of MF digital backs, I would be wasting a lot of the area in a 6x7 camera.
     
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    I was thinking the autofocus and meter would be nice to have. What are other good cameras that offer great meters, and modes?
     
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    dxqcanada Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    If you really want to see the other side ... get a Hasselblad 500C, waist level finder, and the standard 80mm.

    No internal meter, no auto focusing, no auto anything exposure ...

    Get a cheap Gossen handheld meter.
     
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    Hasselblad 'H' series and the new Pentax come to mind. Don't lose sight of the fact that MF shooting isn't really meant for speed/action work. You have time to manually focus, to walk around with a hand-held meter and work out your exposure, stuff like that.
     
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    Square negatives??? Ewwwwwwwwwwww
     
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    Sorry to join the discussion late (just joined the forum).

    Until very recently, I had cameras in the P&S, Full-Frame DSLR (Nikon D3), Medium Format (Mamiya 645 AFDii film & digital) and Large Format (4x5). I am selling everything for the Nikon & 4x5 and sticking to the Mamiya / Phase One digital back setup.

    This has a lot to due with just wanting to cut down on the clutter in my house, but an equal amount that everything I need can be accomplished by Medium Format. I choice the Mamiya 645 AFD solution 5-years ago because it was not "Hasselblad" and at the time a full-frame Nikon was just a fantasy.

    Now, I am staying with Mamiya because the "bigger, better pixel count" race is less of a problem with medium format. Unlike DSLR's, where you have a camera body that will be obsolete days after you buy it, medium format backs are only one part of a camera system. The resale value of Phase One backs is very respectable, as with the exception of the older 6-mp backs, every Phase One back made in the past 5-years still beats DSLR's.

    One other thing...I gave up the wedding photography business after 27-years this past summer (too many entry level entrants into the game) and I exclusively do landscape work for personal collection. To me the medium format process "forces" a more contemplative approach to photography. Oh yeah, it only takes 30-seconds to switch between film & digital.

    I would suggest Mamiya / Phase One over Hasselblad because of the "open system" approach. Hassleblad has closed their system to other digital backs.

    J.D. Floyd
     
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    Nothing wrong with any of the Mamiya 645 cameras. The RBs are fine too
    but be sure you are prepared for the size and weight -- these are big,
    heavy cameras.
     
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    To me the 645 format is too close to 35mm to be worth the expense of the system. Modern digitals like the d3x are already surpassing the resolution of a 645 system.

    I'd look into a 6x7 or 6x6 system. A mamiya 7 rangefinder is a good choice, as is a mamiya c330 TLR.
     

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