Mommy's Taking Her Shirt Off

[kundalini]

Why do I care? For you two, I couldn't give a $hit. For the larger picture and the community as a whole, your continued back-and-forth is a disruptive influence. Both of you have made clear of what your stance is in this matter. The regurgitation is needless and will undoubtedly have a negative impact of a newbies opinion of the website, particularly the OP who joined only this month. The dialogue has now become very boring.

 

[chrisburke]

Firstly you are contradicting yourself and secondly you are not using this section as described. Instead you have started with a blunt insult and gone on to turn this thread into some sort of personal campaign - let it end Chris.
Constructive and educational critique is not a simple "lame" comment that says nothing but your (rather blunt and impolite) viewpoint and goes nowhere to explaining that viewpoint nor how to adjust the image or shooting to improve.

congrats, you said the same thing that the other sensitive people in this thread have said.. *thumbs up for you*

The dialogue has now become very boring.

i 150% agree with this... i think i will take a TPF break... i know that when I come back people will be complaining about the same things, as i've been here for a long time and it never changes, but perhaps a break will cause my attitude towards that to change.. or maybe I will just stop posting advice and cc

IMO this "quite a lot" going on recently has been from a single member inthe last 2 days - posting something like 28 threads of which the only content is a single photo - often with missleading titles.
Its not respresentative of the site

since you recently bitched at me.. are you saying that i am the "single member in the last 2 days" because i've only posted in 1 CC forum negatively..

 

[stsinner]

It's especially creepy when it turns out to actually be a baby IMO.

Now that's a stretch. Only a certain type of person would find this creepy, unless you think that looking at a 1 year old girl topless is somehow pornographic, in which case I wouldn't begin to know what to say to you.

Thank for the critique, though. Always appreciated, whether I agree with it, or not.

 

[Overread]

since you recently bitched at me.. are you saying that i am the "single member in the last 2 days" because i've only posted in 1 CC forum negatively..

???? no I never mentioned you at all your really just drawing random links now

 

[chrisburke]

oh and i'd just like to point out, that in stsinner's other post looking for CC, i have given CC which is pretty good CC i think... why did I give CC.. because they are "proper shots" not snaps... to be totally honest, i didnt even realize it was the same person until just now, when I noticed that it was the same OP.. so I wasnt just trying to be nice in the other thread in an effort to make up for being a dick here.. because I didnt realize it was the same OP...

 

[kundalini]

:violin:

 

[Sw1tchFX]

:neutral:

 

[Jamesy]

Why do I care? For you two, I couldn't give a $hit. For the larger picture and the community as a whole, your continued back-and-forth is a disruptive influence. Both of you have made clear of what your stance is in this matter. The regurgitation is needless and will undoubtedly have a negative impact of a newbies opinion of the website, particularly the OP who joined only this month. The dialogue has now become very boring.

i agree, everyone should just chill out :greenpbl:

 

[King-J]

Some times we don't post for C&C, some times we just post for others of similar interest's to look at what we are Proud of, Maybe Portrait or snapshot. He is obviously proud of his little girl.
I have three kids all grown and on their own, they do grow-up Fast, be proud of them.
My Son, In Iraq fighting for our Country

 

[benhasajeep]

Send him, my thanks!

Where I live, near Bangor they have troop greeters. On occasion my wife goes there with her cell phone and just gives it to the soldiers that need one to call home or whom ever. She has a butt load of roll over minutes so doesn't cost us a dime. Should see the soldiers light up when they can call someone when they were not expecting to be able too.

I also happen to work for one of the airlines that flies some of them out and back home . Half the time they hate us (especially if we are delayed on the return flight). Half the time they love us.

 

[stsinner]

getting so tired of puppies, flowers and babies (in snap shots) you can very easily take a picture of a baby from snap to proper photo by simple composition... but frankly I don't care...

Wow, I totally missed this bit of immaturity (or maybe I read it prior to the edit.) If you are so easily annoyed by the things you mentioned, which happen to be some of the most photographed subjects, then maybe you should take a break for a while, or stick to the professional forums, because, frankly, the kind of criticism you give isn't constructive to a beginner or valuable in any way. It's hateful.

Second, I don't particularly like portraits because they're not natural, they don't capture the moment, and they just look so forced most of the time. I prefer snapshots because they capture a moment in time. In most portraits I see, the subject is in a position they would otherwise never be in naturally, the smile looks forced or bored,and it's obvious that the photographer guided them into position, so you end up saying, "Ben never sits like that or holds his hands that way..."

I'd prefer the smile on my daughter's face to a forced portrait smile anyday, but that's just me. The fact that you don't care doesn't bother me too much, but I'd just ask that if you don't like my pictures or you are sick of seeing the types of pictures I take, then please, if you see my name as the submitter, I'd ask that you simply skip it, because I don't want to be at odds with anyone on here or have a constant pissing match. I believe in mutual respect, and saying that you're sick of seeing the types of pictures that some people like, or saying that you, "don't care," is just rude and not at all beneficial. Thank you.

 

[kundalini]

Second, I don't particularly like portraits because they're not natural, they don't capture the moment, and they just look so forced most of the time. I prefer snapshots because they capture a moment in time. In most portraits I see, the subject is in a position they would otherwise never be in naturally, the smile looks forced or bored,and it's obvious that the photographer guided them into position, so you end up saying, "Ben never sits like that or holds his hands that way..."

I whole-heartedly agree with your sentiment in the general sense. With practice you will be able to turn those "snapshots" into "candids". Concentrate on the components of composition, look at other works of photographers that capture those moments in time and try to figure out what the key elements they have captured to turn their image into an inspiring one.

One of the issues with your posted photo is the busy surrounding environment and does not allow her to be the main focal point of the shot. Thus, this is a rightly pigeon-holed moniker as a snapshot. There are several members here that specialize in childrens portraits that are nothing like the staged photos you refered to. I can't recall their names off the top of my head, but will PM you their websites if it comes to mind because their work is top notch.

BTW, your daughter is quite lovely and you should be proud. Now, learn this medium and show her off to her potential.

 

[chrisburke]

I cant believe there is still whinning happening in here... don't you people have anything better to do with your saturday... move on

if you see my name as the submitter, I'd ask that you simply skip it, because I don't want to be at odds with anyone on here or have a constant pissing match.

however, 5 hours ago, on a good picture you took,(the ladder) that i gave good criticisms on, you thanked me very much for my pointers... unfortunatley it takes time for me to remember names, so I dont doubt that i could see your name tomorrow and forget who you are... so I would imagine i will continue to give CC when its asked... at least until i remember your name and associate it with someone who doesnt want my honest advice.

 

[stsinner]

Chris, I want your honest advice. You've been helpful in my other pictures, and, honestly, I don't think you honestly think that picture of my daughter is lame. I think you may have just been in a mood. -fingers crossed-

 

[stsinner]

BTW, your daughter is quite lovely and you should be proud. Now, learn this medium and show her off to her potential.

Thank you.