More herons, Comments appreciated

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  1. benlonghair

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    Posted in a few of these beginners forum, here's a few more that I think I like even better. As always comments appreciated.

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    The two heron pictures seem to be a little soft. I like the first one though because of the island in the back with the birds on it.

    However, the second photo is my favorite of the three. I like the way the bird and whatever it is standing on stands out from the water.
     
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    It's unfortunate that the background on all of these is so close in value to the subjects. Some contrast would great add to the impact of all of these. Of the three, the second one looks the strongest to my eye for this reason. I like the colors in the little green and the rock it is standing on, but it would probably be stronger if there were less detail in the background. That's hard to do without risking getting a soft subject, but as long as you focus on the eye it won't matter so much if some of the body goes a bit soft...

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    robertwsimpson No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I recropped, sharpened, adjusted the tone curve, and added a bit of saturation.

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    What are you using for post processing?
     
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    I was shooting wide open on the last one. there was nothing I could do about the sharpness of the background due to distance from me to the bird and from the bird to the background.

    Doing curves, exposure and overall saturation in UFRaw. Did some selective (red because the rocks were ugly and blue for the horrible CA from this lens) desaturation and cropping in Gimp.
     
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    one thing I notice about most of your photos is that they could use sharpening. consider making that part of your PP routine. Also, when you're working the curve and exposure, make sure you're watching the histogram. Try to make the curve of the photo take up the whole graph. Then your exposures will be a little brighter, which I think they could use also. These pictures are much better than your last ones though you're improving your shots nicely!
     
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    I'm leery of over sharpening. These are all sharpened. GIMP tends to give a bad halo especially if there's not a lot of contrast.

    I'm still learning how to use curves. I have no knowledge of what I'm actually doing, I'm just going by what looks good. I kinda know what it does to the histogram, but not enough to really do it right.

    I have, however, found my new inspiration. Mr. Unterthiner is nothing short of jaw dropping.
     
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    I used to be leery of over sharpening too... it's just a transition I've made, and I think your pics look like they could use a bit more sharpening action. good to see you have some inspiration. that's always nice to have.
     
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    The photographer I linked has a shot in his Penguin set that's just thousands of penguins shot with a wide angle. The version that shows up in NG this month is amazingly sharp. I assume this is a question of using quality glass.

    I'm trying to determine how much of the softness in my images are due to poor focusing and lack of a tripod and how much is due to running a cheap 300mm.

    Thank you for your critiques.
     
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    well, clearly, he's using much better equipment than you or I am. We have to make the best with what we have.

    That being said, I used to be the same as you, thinking that I could improve my photos with technique while capturing, and not worry about anything in PP. The bottom line is that if you want to have a great picture, you have to do both. Especially with "enthusiast" gear rather than professional.
     
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    Here's a reprocessed version. Makes the heron stand out a little better. A lot more sharpening on it too.

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    I would clone out the circular highlights on #1. Shame it wasn't facing the other direction.

    Diggin' #2.

    #3 :meh: Background's too busy.

    Thanks for sharing.
     

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