My new Ultra light-weight LF cameras

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  1. IanG

    IanG TPF Noob!

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    A couple of weeks ago I returned to the UK and opened two parcels from Germany.

    Two Patent Etui's one complete the other described as "Korpus" (Corpse)

    What amazing cameras, both take 9x12 cms plates/film & just a touch smaller film size than 5x4 inch but the ultimate competitors.

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    In comparison to other 9x12 cameras, an Erneman :)
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    We'll leave the size comparison with a Speed or Crown Graphic for now, but the Graphics are huge :D

    These are destined for use, not to be sat on a shelf, i have 5 or 6 9x12 cameras and luckily they all take the same plate/film holders plus I have 120 roll film backs.

    The "Korpus" camera was at first glance a corpse, opened with a bottle opener or worse, but a few taps with a hammer it's almost as new !!!!!! Soon it will be fitted with a modern coated lens and a key part of my LF equipment.

    Ian
     
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    compur No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Neat cameras! Congrats!
     
  3. Mitica100

    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I've got a fully functional KW Patent Etui and I absolutely love the sleek design on it! I should cut some film for it since I have a few holders.

    Congrats on the find!
     
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    Ilford, Foma & EFKE still make 9x12 film, which is quite easy to find in Europe. I bought a Combi tank from the Us for procesing, as unlike my Jobo it's adjustable.

    Ian
     
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    Cool! Thanks for the info!:thumbup:
     
  6. IanG

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    Just to show exactly how small it is in comparison to a 5x4 Crown Graphic :D

    The 3rd camera is my Zeiss Ikonta 521

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    Now consider that the 9x12cm film size is only slightly smaller, 5x4 is 10.1x12.7cm

    Ian
     
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    All nice cameras but I especially like the slim line of the "Korpus".

    Nice!
     
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    Hey IanG,
    That is a very, very, cool camera. I want one!
    I have a Kodak Recomar 33 with a roll film holder. I wonder if it would fit
    the Etui?? All the 9x12 (and 6x9) European folding cameras appear to be from the exact same mold. Dr. Nagel seems to have influenced the entire European camera market with his design. Here's 2 pics of my Recomars. They look just like your Erneman and have similiarities to the Etui except for their size.
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  9. IanG

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    Pete, Recomars are great cameras I'd like to get one with a rangefinder at some stage.

    A great many 6.5x9 & 0x12 plate cameras from various manufacturers appear fairly similar, some share common parts, Nagel's not one of the first though.

    However there are significant differences with the focus mechanism / track bed, folding struts, case etc and in addition there are at least 5 types of plate holders and they aren't interchangeable. There was no agreed standard, although in practice there are two more common types. Zeiss used 3 differing types depending on which company had made the camera pre-merger.

    I don't know the edge style of the Nagel Recomar plate holders, are they like these ?
    [​IMG]These fit a Patent Etui, as well as my Rodenstock & Orion Werks 9x12's.

    Or like these ?
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    Flat edges. These fit early Linhofs and some Zeiss cameras.

    Ian
     
  10. Mitica100

    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Nice Reco! I might sell my Etui in the near future, need $ for a Canon L lens. ;)
     
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    Ian,
    I don't have any plates. but you first set of picks look like the correct ones. Here's a pick of the edge of my roll film holder and the back of the camera. It looks like you thin edged plates would fit.
    Thanks for the info.
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    Mitica,
    You have some collection on your website. You could probably retire if you sold all of those cameras. Each one you have is a collectable.
     
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