Need some advice on recent wedding shots.

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  1. bace

    bace TPF Noob!

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    So these are some shots from a recent wedding. I'm not good with C&C (one of the reason I don't post here that much), but I was hoping i could get some advice on how process some of these pics a little better. For example a lot of pictures I see around here are really sharp. Now, I don't know if that's something I'm missing on the equipment side (I shoot with a 50mm on a 350D badly need equipment upgrades but I'm poor so...that'll have to wait), or I can do something extra in the PS to make em look their best. Anyway, even color looks off on some of these too...thanks for looking and especially if you can help.

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  2. tirediron

    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I'm not sure if by "I'm not good with C&C" you mean that you don't take criticism well, you don't understand it, or ?? However since you've asked for advice, I'll provide my thoughts and suggestions. First, for future reference, pls number your images, as it makes it much easier to reference specific shots.

    1. (Bride facing window): Nice idea, but not well executed. The washed out window and haze around her head are very harsh and distracting. The use of fill flash against her back would have reduced the dynamic range and evened the exposure considerably, reducing these issues. Also, when considering your compositions, watch for items such as the curtain rod and heater which are less than appealing.

    2. (Finger to face): Nice expression, and good pose, however the dress is slightly over-exposed and the background is very distracting. For an image like this, separate your subject from the background and shoot wide open to reduce the DoF, also avoid background with vertical or horizontal patterns/linear elements as they tend to show through no matter how soft the focus.

    3. (Bride mirror) Nice, a little bit of lens flare around her right elbow, but that's minor. Not your positioning however; her right arm is partly cropped by the mirror and her left arm is too near the camera servicing only as a blurred distraction. Good exposure and detail on the dress.

    4. (Boat, OOF bride): There's too much going on in this image. The man and bouquet are well focused, with all of the other OOF elements, it's too busy and they can't support the image.

    5. (Boat OOF man): Better execution, but the blown sky and harsh reflections on the water detract from the image. A circular polarizer and/or graduated ND filter would have helped greatly.

    6. (Couple on path): Always, always, ALWAYS level your images in post. Remember, water doesn't run uphill, and trees rarely grow on angles. Again a good image which loses out due to background elements; the cans of bugspray(?) on the table and bit of overhead umbrella don't work. Also, make sure the subjects are looking toward you; not necessarily right down the barrel of the lens, but at least toward you. Call her name if you have to.

    7. (Ceremony): Not bad, good exposure on the critical elements.

    8. (Ring): Not bad, a little bright on the skin of her hand however. This would have been better redone after the ceremony from a higher perspective, looking down on the hands.

    9. (Kiss): Good pose, but you were the victim of nature. The sky and time of day look to be about as bad as they could have been. This image need a bit of fill-flash to reduce the shadows in the foreground and perhaps a G-ND to help with the sky.

    10. (Couple, bride looking): Not bad, again, she's looking away. Also note the spots on the back of the groom's jacket in this and preceding image. Those are things that MUST be taken care of in post if not at the time.

    11. (Couple with child): Good.

    12. Ceremony from behind auidence): Good, aspect isn't ideal, but clearly your options were limited.

    13. (Kiss): Again, this image needs to be levelled, and both this and preceding one need a CPOL to remove the reflection from the water.

    14. (Couple, bride w/ bouquet): Exposure on the couple isn't bad, however the water is very harsh; again, fill-flash was needed here, and perhaps a little less crop to include all the boquet?

    15. (Couple): Again too tightly cropped for my taste; I would suggest opening this up to include all of both their heads and removing the large green leaf lower-right.

    Overall the images aren't bad. I don't see anything that strikes me as overly soft, but there are a number of images with white-balance issues. When you're doing an event like this out of doors, especially with shade, open light, and by the looks of it, everything in between, ensure that you shoot a white card frequently to allow for easier calibration of WB in post. In general, I'd say your biggest concern is your backgrounds and/or DoF. Good luck with your next one.

    Just my $00.02 worth - your milage may vary.

    ~John
     
  3. joecoulsonphotography

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    I know that most people on here like to give long CC but I tend to just get right to the point. I personaly think that given you had one focal length to work with(which usually makes the photographer think more and move around more before each shot), the shots are outstanding. I always use my 50 at portrait shoots (personal taste) and get great results, but I would be chicken to use it all day at a wedding. Fortunately it looks as if the wedding was somewhat small and it wored out great. You will find that more and more people these days like tighter cropping and off level pictures, that is usually discussed before an event. Photojournalistic is what they seem to call it:) and I think you have done a nice job. I would only say that until you have other equipment options, use the len's strengths. DOF and candid style head shots work well with the 50.
     
  4. bace

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    So thanks for the suggestions. Awesome advice. Really, you must be perfect at what you do.

    Does anyone have any advice on how to help my pictures to look sharper in post, or to sharpen them up at the actual event.

    The reason I don't like C&C is because your opinion on what looks good is usually the same as mine. Unfortunately on the day of the event we do what we can. So that's why specifically I didn't ask for what was wrong with my composition or DOF. I asked about the sharpening, and color.

    If anyone can help me with that I'd appreciate it greatly.

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    Hi there Bace

    The purpose of C&C is not to point what you did wrong so much as to some suggestions as to what you can try in the event your find yourself in the same scenario.

    If you wish to pursue shooting weddings many tough lighting, framing and posing situations will present themselves many times over and what better than to know how to handle them when they come up?

    Doing what you can may be okay but sometimes you have to get creative ;)

    That said as far as color and sharpening you can make some curves adjustments in in Photoshop and use Smart Sharpen just a touch.

    I'm not picking on you or anything so please don't take it that way.

    HTH

    -vidish
     
  6. bace

    bace TPF Noob!

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    Yes, i get that, thank you again.

    But when you specifically ask for advice on one thing and someone gives you advice on something else, that's just antagonizing.

    I'm well aware of the things I did wrong at the wedding. Again, equipment plays a part, weather was terrible, and the location made for very little options. I did the best I could and you can rest assured that my clients were VERY happy. I on the other hand am not. I know what makes a good pictures though. I'm not here for composition and lighting lessons. If I was, I would have asked for it.

    Like I said, I appreciate the comments, but ask again for and advice on the things I specifically asked for advice on.

    Post Color and Sharpening.

    I guess I'll just read another tutorial and leave this forum alone because for some reason a few people just can't understand simple English.
     
  7. vidish

    vidish TPF Noob!

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    I did answer your question regarding sharpening and color. :)

    Implying people can't understand English is rather unnecessary when you're the one who needs help.
     
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    Vidish just gave you the answer, use Curves for color adjustments and Smart Sharpen to up the sharpness a tiny bit.
     
  9. bace

    bace TPF Noob!

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    I was talking in general. To anyone else who might have some other tips.

    Yours were very useful. Thankyou.

    Also your English skills are very sharp and colorful (wonh wonh)
     
  10. joecoulsonphotography

    joecoulsonphotography TPF Noob!

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    Gave you a compliment on your shots, but I will C&C your attitude. Lighten up!
     
  11. tirediron

    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    No, not at all. I like to think of myself as a decent photographer, but nothing more. I apologize for not directly addressing your question regarding improving the images in post-processing. Instead, I tried to provide answers which might help you 'Get it right in the camera' in future.
     
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    my favorite is the second one...even with the horizontal lines. it's really pretty and the grey background is perfect for it. :)
     

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