New Camera or New Lenses?

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  1. PhotoJunkieJen

    PhotoJunkieJen TPF Noob!

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    To take better shots, obviously I have to improve my craft and knowledge :lmao:

    But equipment counts for a lot as well. :)

    I own a 10 mp Rebel XTi with a basic kit lens. I've been looking at 40D's...

    I'm wondering if you would recommend upgrading the camera? Or simply investing in better lenses to get better shots?

    Looking forward to your opinions. :)
     
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    Glass first - always always glass first :)

    Glass controls the light entering the recording device (the camera) and thus directly controls the quality of light, amount and also what sight you get through the lens. Upgrading to better glass will give you a much more noticable improvment in quality over upgrading the body.
    The XTi is a very capable body and with the right glass on it can give some great results. Of course it needs good hands holding it of course ;)

    Since you only have the (rather poor) kit lens you really do need to upgrade some glass - what are your interests, what you you like photographing and do you find yourself wishing for something else. Do you want to do macro, sports or wildlife - things which you current kit can't do. OR do you want to take better shots of what you currently do?
     
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    I just love all kinds of photography. I realize that's probably about like enjoying playing all kinds of music... some of the basics carry over... but a lot of what you learn for jazz isn't much good for rock... and a lot of what you learn for rock isn't much good for country. :lol: You have to learn all the nuances of each genre.

    But more than anything, I enjoy photographing people in their element... taking creative shots of friends or family... as well as landscapes/nature... and concerts/bands.

    I'd love to do macro, I just don't know a whole lot about it currently.

    I'm pretty sure Santa is bringing me an external flash for Christmas... so I can save my money for lens stuff. :)
     
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    Glass first. I upgraded from a film Rebel G to a 30D. Now I'm looking for glass. Btw, my glass was junk.... but.... I learned a lot with it and now I've learned even more now that I know, good glass.... good glass.... GOOD GLASS!!!!!

    -JD-
     
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    I don't know Canon, but the "Kit lens" is not necessarily the limiting factor in getting good shots. This fellow here certain proves that.

    I would however, upgrade a lens to fit a range you don't have access to if you are thinking about upgrading.
     
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    Better quality glass will help immensely. Fast glass i.e. 70-200 2.8 IS, has much better quality elements, giving you sharper images, better color, and contrast.

    You'll drop some cash, but much more necessary than upgrading a body.

    And BTW, megapixels mean about as much as UV filters. Looks good on the box, but really does nothing for the end result.
     
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    So any suggestions for good lenses?
    The cheaper the better (for my wallet anyway), buttt I realize that there is a certain amount of cost involved with such a hobby.
    So hit me with the expensive stuff too... and I can work out a plan for acquiring all this wondeful (expensive) gear.
     
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    Well for a new lens you really need to have an idea what the lens is to be used for since each lens has areas where it performs best.
    About the only lens that people do recomend to any user (especailly new users) is the 50mm f1.8 which is a very cheap lens and yet for its price it has a very good quality of image - its built is plasticy and a little weak feeling, but unless you start throwing it around it should last a good long while
     
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    I linked the 50mm to a friend today. HIs wife is now going to order it for him. $87 free shipping from Amazon. I bought this lens right after I got my 30D.

    -JD-
     
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    New camera or lens? We have a "Camera Showoff" thread on my sim racing forum that we exchange photos and comments (mostly ego booster "great shot" comments :D).

    One of the guys shoots a 350D (Rebel XT) which is a lesser camera than the XTi? I don't think you can say anything bad about the quality of his shots with the glass he's using....

    http://don.vn.cz/photos/countrycross_paskov/12.jpg
    http://don.vn.cz/photos/countrycross_paskov/17.jpg
    [​IMG]http://don.vn.cz/photos/countrycross_paskov/20.jpg

    His are the finest dirt bike shots I've seen yet since getting in to this photography stuff. His rally races are even better than those I linked to with the dirt bikes.
     
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    yep....
    lenses. I've seen photos coming from a basic DSLR that far outweigh photos from some of the more advanced cameras. Even using the kit lens doesn't yield even remotely bad pictures, some are actually quite good.
    But, I'd start looking through all of your favorite photos on this site (or others) and take note of the equipment the photographer is using to better narrow down your choices... There are A LOT of lenses out there!! This method helped me a ton.
    But, all in all, it's how you use the stuff you have... I learned this the hard way. Practicing a technique to keep your hand steady, focusing sharply on the eyes etc.

    Now, just know I'm a beginner, so my advice should be taken with a grain of salt... and
     
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    About the only thing worse than the "mega pixel myth", is the opposite side of the coin - that megapixels absolutely do not matter. If this were true, then we'd be running around with 3mega pixel cameras, happy as a clam. The ability to crop and retain detail is of immense value to quite a few people.
     

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