New Film/Digital Camera?

Discussion in 'Film Discussion and Q & A' started by urufan56, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. urufan56

    urufan56 TPF Noob!

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    Hey, I'm still looking around for the best choice in buying a good camera fit for me and my shooting habits. I was just wondering if some of you could help me decide what is the best camera system for my shooting habits (Ex: Film vs. Digital)

    - I like to shoot nature photography.
    - I'm wanting to get into shooting portrait photography.
    - I want to have a really good quality image when I shoot.
    - A rugged camera system (Body; Lens) that will last years to come.
    - As cheap as possible ( ~ $300.00 for Starters)
    - Simple enought to let me worry about taking the picture and not battery life(Just an Example).
    - Portability isn't needed but would be nice.

    I'm sure this isn't all of them, but It's basically what I need. Thanks so much! :sexywink:
     
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    My first question is what do you feel the shortcomings of your current system are?

    Allan
     
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    It's getting old, and I don't use it much, and I would like to get a newer camera. Plus the back film door is broken, so it is hard to take pictures.
     
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    Battou No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Canon EF, it uses all the same lenses as your AE-1 and is far more durable than the AE-1. For Wild life with the assistance of a 400mm lens it is just a great investment. Batteries are not as reaidilly available as those for the AE-1 but they are available at any Radio Shack. Batterylife is actually better than the AE-1 as the only thing that uses the bateries is the meter and long exposures of 1/1 up to 1/30 (all the rest is fully mechanical). Another interesting note is it uses the same viewfinder as the AE-1, so you won't have to fiddle around with learning a new viewfinder.

    Some of the wildlife I have done with mine.

    http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/nature-wildlife/155896-prolly-one-most-common-birds-world.html
    http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/nature-wildlife/148666-cold-cold-cold-cold.html
    http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/nature-wildlife/145341-dukat.html
    http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/nature-wildlife/142063-blackcapped-chikadee.html
    http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/nature-wildlife/140463-turkey-vulture.html - Captive bird

    As for portrature, I do not have much to speak of but get your self a good FD 85mm 1.8 and you can't go wrong.

    The EF body and a good Vivitar 400mm with a little digging and browsing can be found in the neighborhood of $300 (USD)
     
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    Well with the onslaught of Digital, a great quality semi pro/pro film camera is well within grasp for your budget range, and there is no lack in quality when it comes to film, the pictures will be crisp and clear, but will still not match digitals smooth crayonlike look, but the quality will never be disappointing. i shoot with a Canon Rebel T2 film camera and have never had any troubles. although its not built with the highest of quality, i am just careful with it and i expect it to last a long while. But if you want ruggedness, get a body molded with magnesium, the Elan series was a decent quality midrange SLR. and lots should still be out there, even brand new. plus if you hold off getting a DSLR the prices for the top of the line models now will only be going down. thats why im waiting.:thumbup:
     
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    I would have to agree with Battou, the EF would be an excellent replacement for your old AE-1, allow you to continue using your lens(es) etc, and be very familiar. This is assuming you want to stay with a MF film camera.

    Allan
     
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    I would definetly stay manual focus film if I were you. Plus I have a Canon fd mount 200-500mm lens for sale
     
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    Thanks for all the quick replies! :D

    With what you said, I was looking on the internet and found the Canon EOS-1N, and it looked like a good qulity camera. But most of all (I probably should of said this earlier) since a swich to digital in the future will probably happen to me, I liked the fact that I could use the EOS lens I would of bought for the EOS-1N and I would be able to use them with another newer Canon model if I ever wanted to upgrade to digital. Therefore saving me money. If I'm wrong, correct me.

    What is good about manual focus compared to auto focus?

    Thanks for all the replies!! :thumbup:
     
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    Well, it's the cost of the lenses for the most part, the EF lenses are still in good to high demand whereas the FD manual focus lenses are not.


    Ironically I was looking around E-bay when I found these, I know you just said you where leaning towards the EOS's but I'll post the links since I had set them asside anyways.

    Canon EF Film Camera Body Only! - eBay (item 140301510515 end time Feb-21-09 10:00:08 PST)

    Canon EF SLR 35mm Camera - eBay (item 300294082157 end time Feb-20-09 07:39:00 PST)

    I'd bid on them my self but I already own two of them.
     
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    I'd go digital.

    My resume: I am a former press photog back in the film only days. I went digital, as a hobbyist, with the introduction of the 20D. I never looked back to film or had any regrets going digital.

    If money is a concern, (and to whom isn't it), it is a matter of paying now with a swift swipe of a sword across the midsection with digital or paying later with the death of a thousand cuts every time you purchase and develop film.

    A significant and possibly the best way to improve one's photography is by shooting ... then shoot again and again. Digital allows this technique without any financial burden upon the photog.

    Digital is faster and cleaner to process. Man, I sure wish I had digital back when I was shooting news. If you have a laptop you can process in the field an option which isn't practical with film.

    Gary


    Additionally, with the instant feedback of digital one can adjust in the field with confidence
     
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    Yeah, It's just why spend money on lens that you can't use later in life and you have grown accustomed too? I just want to open up the possibilities if I did get the film camera and not like it, and I already had my lens, I could use my lens on a digital camera. I you see what I mean.
     
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    I'd say make the switch to EOS at least, digital would be an even better idea. There are still things that are better about film (though really only when shooting black and white), but if you are investing for the future digital is where you want to put your money.
     

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