Oh no..? Yep, I've done it...

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  1. misstwinklytoes

    misstwinklytoes TPF Noob!

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    So a lot of you have seen, maybe even read through my threat called Oh No... but if you haven't this might not make sense. :scratch:

    I met with the bride today about an hour and a half ago so I could see the church meet her, etc.

    How great! She's super sweet and so is her fiance. So is the preacher! It was a very pleasant experience, (Even with my 2 yr old tagging along, and that says a lot!). :clap:

    The lighting in the church is.... well, it leaves something to be desired, but I took a few pictures and I'm gonna post them here so that others may give me advice. (Please.) Also any advice on positioning, etc. is greatly appreciated.:???:

    These photographs aren't for C&C, I don't even know what I was focusing on in most of them. I just wanted to get some pictures of the light with different settings. :chatty:

    Maybe I'll use P-mode inside the church and ... no... I don't really wanna do that. I wanna learn. I have to admit that I'm excited now. My nerves aren't really bothering me so much anymore and I really think I can rock this wedding. At least as much as she expects me to and maybe even blow her away.:headbang:

    So, any advice is welcome and thanks for looking!:cheers:

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    Shooting Date/Time 9/21/2010 11:11:14 AM
    Shooting Mode Manual Exposure
    Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/100
    Av( Aperture Value ) 3.5
    Metering Mode Evaluative Metering
    ISO Speed 400
    Lens EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
    Focal Length 18.0mm
    Flash Off
    White Balance Mode Daylight
    AF Mode AI Focus AF
    Picture Style Standard
    Long exposure noise reduction 1:Auto
    High ISO speed noise reduction 0:Off
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    Shooting Date/Time 9/21/2010 11:12:23 AM
    Shooting Mode Manual Exposure
    Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/100
    Av( Aperture Value ) 3.5
    Metering Mode Evaluative Metering
    ISO Speed 400
    Lens EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
    Focal Length 18.0mm
    Flash Off
    White Balance Mode Daylight
    AF Mode AI Focus AF
    Picture Style Standard
    Long exposure noise reduction 1:Auto
    High ISO speed noise reduction 0:Off
    [​IMG]

    3. This one was shot in P mode
    Shooting Date/Time 9/21/2010 11:14:21 AM
    Shooting Mode Aperture-Priority AE
    Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/10
    Av( Aperture Value ) 4.5
    Metering Mode Evaluative Metering
    Exposure Compensation +1/3
    ISO Speed 400
    Lens EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
    Focal Length 18.0mm
    Flash Off
    White Balance Mode Fluorescent
    AF Mode AI Focus AF
    Picture Style Standard
    Long exposure noise reduction 1:Auto
    High ISO speed noise reduction 0:Off
    [​IMG]

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    Shooting Date/Time 9/21/2010 11:20:39 AM
    Shooting Mode Manual Exposure
    Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/30
    Av( Aperture Value ) 4.5
    Metering Mode Evaluative Metering
    ISO Speed 400
    Lens EF50mm f/1.8 II
    Focal Length 50.0mm
    Flash Off
    White Balance Mode Fluorescent
    AF Mode AI Focus AF
    Picture Style Standard
    Long exposure noise reduction 1:Auto
    High ISO speed noise reduction 0:Off
    [​IMG]

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    Shooting Date/Time 9/21/2010 11:22:02 AM
    Shooting Mode Manual Exposure
    Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/30
    Av( Aperture Value ) 4.5
    Metering Mode Evaluative Metering
    ISO Speed 400
    Lens EF50mm f/1.8 II
    Focal Length 50.0mm
    Flash Off
    White Balance Mode Fluorescent
    AF Mode AI Focus AF
    Picture Style Standard
    Long exposure noise reduction 1:Auto
    High ISO speed noise reduction 0:Off
    [​IMG]

    6. There's Bride1
    Shooting Date/Time 9/21/2010 11:21:15 AM
    Shooting Mode Manual Exposure
    Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/30
    Av( Aperture Value ) 4.5
    Metering Mode Evaluative Metering
    ISO Speed 400
    Lens EF50mm f/1.8 II
    Focal Length 50.0mm
    Flash Off
    White Balance Mode Fluorescent
    AF Mode AI Focus AF
    Picture Style Standard
    Long exposure noise reduction 1:Auto
    High ISO speed noise reduction 0:Off
    [​IMG]
     
  2. misstwinklytoes

    misstwinklytoes TPF Noob!

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    Oh! And the preacher is okay with flash except for the changing of rings and repeating of vows.
     
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    Since your kit lens is the only wide angle(ish) you have, I'd suggest keeping your ISO at 400 (as it seems to grab enough light) but adjust your shutter speed...

    So if you're shooting wide at 18mm, your shutter speed could be as low as 1/20s without getting camera shake. But if you zoom into 55mm, you'll need to also adjust your shutter speed to 1/60s or faster. Does that make sense? 1/focal length for your shutter speed AT LEAST. Unless you're on a tripod, or have some of that fancy IS.

    I'd make use of the 50mm too when you can, but keep in mind when you'll be changing lenses, because it can be easy to miss shots. You will also be able to lower the ISO when using the 50mm if you're shooting at a wider aperture. I'd suggest 2.2 or 2.5, maybe wide open if you have to.

    Just keep your shutter speed in relation to your focal length.
     
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    misstwinklytoes TPF Noob!

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    Thanks! That does make sense and I'll be trying it out soon.
     
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    misstwinklytoes TPF Noob!

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    Do you have any suggestions if I get the Canon 24-70 f2.8?
     
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    Mostly the same. Watch your shutter speed indoors. The extra aperture stops and the zoom would help you immensely. You could shoot on 2.8 the whole ceremony and probably be fine. It wouldn't be a bad decision to pick up.
     
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    I agree with everything you said here except a shutter speed as slow as 1/20th of a second. While she might be able to hand hold at that speed it does nothing to eliminate subject movement. Even in a wedding situation you will get slight movement of the bride and groom swaying or shifting position which will cause the image to be blurry. I would suggest trying to keep the SS above 1/60th if at all possible. But, I have only shot one wedding so I am not very experienced at weddings but basic principals always apply.

    Good luck,
    Travis
     
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    Village Idiot No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Don't. Buy a speedlight. Bounce it from the ceiling. A speedlight will improve your chances of getting a better photo a 100 times more than the 24-70 f/2.8 on your camera.
     
  9. misstwinklytoes

    misstwinklytoes TPF Noob!

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    I would be renting it and not buying it. I wonder if it has IS.

    Thank you for your feedback Travis. Something else I will keep in mind.
     
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    I'd actually second that more than the 24-70. I bought my 430EX II right before my first wedding (unpaid, of course) and did fairly well bouncing it off the ceiling and the walls. Lights are always a good investment. You can also constantly shoot at like 1/100s (or higher probably) with the kit lens.
     
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    misstwinklytoes TPF Noob!

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    Okay. I'm hoping the guy who was willing to sell me his flash on here is still willing to do so. Mayyyybbbeeeee I can do both. :)
     
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    +1. I would get a flash and use the 50 wide open. Try to balance your flash with ambient as much as possible while keeping the shutter speed at a respectable rate. If you do get a flash remember to gel it so the rest of the room doesn't turn green from the florescent lights.
    If you don't get a flash I'd try to find a position that would allow you to use the 50 1.8. If you do rent the 24-70 just remember that it doesn't have IS. Google Joe McNally's Dagrip on youtube, that may help you with slower shutter speeds.

    Will your camera go about ISO 400 ok?
     

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