Olive Cotton Award: $20k Photographic Portrait prize awarded to an image that isn't a photograph

Discussion in 'Photographic Discussions' started by DanOstergren, Jul 25, 2017.

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    I didn't say the film was a photograph, in my opinion but I'd stretch the definition to anything made on film and then developed a photograph. If a shot made with the lens cap on and then is developed, most people would still consider that as a photograph. Therefore actually using light to produce an image is not a pre-requisite. The film is a just that, until a print is made.


     
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    But most film starts with nothing on it unless you are double exposing.

    I've seen some work with an image made by light and coloured with paint. In that instance I'd agree because the paint was applied to a print, but this one is the opposite.

    Development is also a photographic technique and requires skill.
     
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    There was a time in my life where I'd have been with most people in this thread. Interestingly enough it was when I was most active drawing and painting (not that I was actually any good) but my favorites were always the Dutch movement. It's not till I've gotten older and a bit more mellow that I've been able to appreciate conceptual art a bit more.

    I do get it, most of the time though we are so consumed by reproducing a realistic image of what we see and striving to get that fantastic shot that I guess the push in one way in my head has created an equal and opposite reation in the part of my brain for tolerance of art! lol
     
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    The shutter released with the lens on is called a **** up and is considered a waste of film.

    Edit: Apparently I neglected to type the word 'cap' in the above message.
     
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    True, but is it not still a photograph?
     
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    weepete TPF Supporters Supporting Member

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    Yup, I have neglected digital a bit but have said that that while development of film is a defining feature it is not the single one.
     
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    No. There is no image.
     
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    Sorry buddy! Spanish measures! :trink39: I'll have anther look tomorrow
     
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    I think most people would happily call it an attempt at photography, at least if they realize what it is. Most people probably wouldn't recognize it.
     
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