Olympus E410 & E510

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  1. basil4j

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    Hi All,

    My wife has expressed interest in the E510 but im wondering what is the difference between the E410 and the E510!?

    I sure can't find any...

    EDIT: Ok, I think I found it...Image stabilisation!! How could I miss it.

    Ok then, how does this camera compare to the Nikon D80? Its 2/3 the price yet has liveview and IS built in?
    Is the E510 aimed more at the D40x market or the D80?
    Is built in IS better/worse than nikons VR in the lense?
    Would the e510 be any good at landscapes with the 2.0x crop factor? (take away the composition issues :p)

    Sorry for all the questions, im just trying to figure out the quite substantial price difference...
     
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    It's a different market and a different approach to camera design. IS on the sensor is not better than in the lens, but it is far more cost effective, with the bonus that it works with all lenses and not just selected ones. I saw a test recently posted somewhere here that Canon's IS and Nikon's VR systems are far superior but then you do pay through the nose for it.

    The E510 would probably is pitched at the size concious market. It's a D40 competitor with in my opinion better features worth of being nearly a D80. So kind of like a Canon 400D except smaller.

    The 2x crop factor shouldn't be an issue for you. If your heart is set on the olympus system then you shouldn't really doubt it too much. Olympus produce lenses to suit the 4/3rds system and you will certainly find lenses suitable for landscape photography. They are also a SLR camera company from way back and not some dodgy new market startup looking to make a quick buck off a rising fad.
     
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    Thanks guys :)

    I thought the E510 was somewhere between the D40x and D80 so this confirms it :)

    Im still stuck on the D80 but my wife saw the E510 at a the Ellerslie Garden show here in NZ yesterday and really liked the look of it. Im trying to come up with a list of pro's and con's of the 2 to help her decide between getting a D80 (like I am) and a E510.

    If she went D80 that would mean we can share glass.

    There doesn't appear to be much difference in image quality until high ISO's where the D80 seems better.
     
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    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/com...idebyside&cameras=nikon_d80,oly_e510&show=all this may help.

    D80 vs E510 on some features:
    3:2 standard photo size, vs 4:3 computer monitor size
    better autofocus, vs the 3 point AF similar to the D40
    30seconds max shutter without bulb, vs 60 seconds (great for nights shots)
    rear curtain flash exposure, vs no rear curtain

    These are some key operational issues which matter to me. Some of them can be worked around like the 30seconds max exposure, this can be overridden using a $25 remote control in bulb mode, but other things like the AF unit would be a big selling point for me.
     
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    I hadn't seen that feature on dpreview! Thanks :D

    The focus points thing is a biggie for me...now to see what my wife thinks :D
     
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    If you already have then lenses, then I know I'd be stickin' with the Nikon.
     
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    Well ill be getting a D80 at the same time (and lenses etc).

    Neither of us are roped into a system yet but im stuck on the nikon :)

    My wife just liked what she saw (the E510) and im trying to give her my un-biased (ie toward nikon...kidding...kinda :p) thoughts on both :)

    I don't mind which camera she gets, in the end im sure both would do excellent jobs!

    Technically the D80 looks superior, but $$$ wise the E510 is mighty tempting
     
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    It's not simply "who's better" question. It's all about the features you're looking for. Apart from $$$ and quality considerations, don't miss the point that E410/E510 are the smallest and lightest DSLR. You may not think the weight and size is big deal but you wife probably do. Besides, live view is a good feature.

    Probably you may give a chance to yourself to experience other camera brands. When you really own it, you have better chance of unbiased judgment in daily use.
     
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    Just dealt with a similar situation, though instead of a wife it was my best friend. I own the d80, and have since January of this year. I love it and am very vocal about that when asked. My friend owned a d50 for a while, but sold it because he was offered a good price. He honestly didn't get much use out of his d50, because he doesn't really shoot much. Still, shortly after selling it he had camera withdrawal and started looking for a replacement.

    His first thought was Sony. That didn't last once he held the A700. He didn't care for it at all. Then he started considering the d80. But the price was too high for him in the end. So he started looking at Olympus on my suggestion, because I'd heard good things.

    He bought the E510 two days ago. So far, so good...for the most part. He visibly has some buyer's remorse...I think he legitimately wanted the d80 but knew he probably had to settle for something less expensive. Still, he's been happy with the photos so far. He does like the smaller size, though he thinks (as I do) that the live view is pointless. I think he'll keep it for a while, and eventually sell it to go back to Nikon once he gets some money built up. For the time being, however, he seems content.
     
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    I really like the size of the Olympus. When you screw a short lens on it, it could pass as a P&S in many people's eyes. I'd say that you should encourage your wife to get an Olympus. If she likes it better, then it's probbably better for her, and the Olympus is certainly capable of producing some amazing results. Technology isn't all there is to camera, size and feel do matter.
     
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    Hi All,

    Missed these last 3 replies for some reason :\

    We actually went into the camera store the other day and tried them out (D80, XTi, K10d, E510...and the D300 but we won't go there :p )

    She actually felt the D80 was most comfortable despite her small hands!

    She still hasn't decided but we have a bit of time :)

    Thanks for the feedback people!
     

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