Opinions on fine grain 400 B&W film

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  1. darin3200

    darin3200 TPF Noob!

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    I'm trying to find a fine grain 35mm 400 speed B&W film (non C-41). Any opinions on the listed, or maybe other films?
    • Kodak T-Max
    • Kodak Tri-X 400
    • Ilford Delta
    • Maybe something Arista

    I was going to buy a role of each to try out, but since I am almost out of film developer and I was going to buy the developer that worked best with each. Sort of invest in the film I plan to be using a while.

    Thanks,
     
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    I like T-MAX, but everyone has a favorite.

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    I like TMax AND Tri-X; both are delicious yummy films. I'd start with Kodak before moving on to the Ilford.

    Have not shot any Arista so I have nothing to offer there. :)
     
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    Fujifilm Neopan 400 Professional film Hands down.
     
  5. darin3200

    darin3200 TPF Noob!

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    Yeah, I've using TMax right now, its good but I'm not really happy with it. Any other thoughts on Fujifilm Neopan, I've read a lot of good stuff about it
     
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    I loved the Tmax 100, I've never tried any 400's listed though. The 100's offer a better contrast between the blacks and the whites. Less grays. I don't know if that's related to the processing though.
     
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    Tmax and Delta are tabular grain films. The grains are elongated, sort of coffin shaped, rather than round polygons (like Tri-X and HP5). Visually this is supposed to appear more fine grained, although it can also come across mushy.

    In the past Arista brand has just been house labeled Ilford FP4 and HP5, but that may not be the case anymore with Ilford's finacial troubles.

    I'm not up on the latest Fuji BW films.

    Developer choice and developing technique will have a lot to do with the grain you end up with.

    When I want fine grain I either go for slower or bigger film.
     
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    For fine grain, go ahead get some 100 speed film. I have had great luck with Delta 100. The arista stuff is okay. I have not tried the Fuji yet.
     
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    Not to cross promote forums or anything, but here is a link to a guys protfolio whom I admire very much for his work. His portfolio demonstrates many fine examples of the various film types discussed thus far in this thread.
    http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=339964
    Clicking on each picture will give you options to view the technical details of the image.
     
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    Unimaxium TPF Noob!

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    I second the vote for Fuji Neopan 400. Very good film IMO. Tri-x is also nice, but the results I've gotten from Neopan are better.
     
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    Has anyone tried Neopan and T-Max, any major differences?. From what I've read neopan works best in XTol and T-Max in D-76. I would like to stick with only one type of film, I can also get Tmax at wal-mart if I ever am short and *really* need more film.
     
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    There aren't really any facts that prove brand X film works best in type A developer. It has more to do with the photog's experience using the particular combination of film and developer. What works for someone else, may not work well for you.

    Sticking with one kind of film and developer is essential if you really want to get a good feel for any combination; then you'll find you can control many of the aspects often attributed to particular films and chems.

    I choose film and developer based on how easy it is to get, what is the price, and how likely is it to be discontinued just about when I get it figured out.
     

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