get this, me and a couple of my friends were skateboarding in this abondoned warehouse the other night and i was snapping some pics with my old slr, no flash. we just had a halogen lamp and a generator for light, but it was enough because the walls were reflecting alot of light. my friend mike bet me 10 bucks that none of my pictures would turn out because i had no flash hahahaha. i was able to snap them with a 1/150 shutter speed for most if the night !! haha. and now im 10 bucks richer. actually, a couple of very cool pics resulted, ill try to get them up as soon as i free up some space on my host site.