Photoshop Question: File>Save for Web & Devices

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  1. gendarmee

    gendarmee TPF Noob!

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    Hello there
    Accidentally found that converting the picture with this option (File>Save for Web & Devices) on photoshop helps retain the colors whilst uploading pictures to Facebook.

    My question is, what exactly happens when one optimizes a picture for web using that option?

    what is sRGB, DPI & PPI What exactly happens if one reduces the PPI to 72 while resizing?
     
  2. battletone

    battletone TPF Noob!

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    Are you shooting in AdobeRGB? Save for Web does a very good job of converting to sRGB. There are other methods to change the color accurately if you need for less compressed files.
    72ppi isn't the issue, its the overall resolution you should be concerned with.
     
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    KmH Helping photographers learn to fish Supporting Member

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    Ppi (or the often misued dpi) do not apply until an image is going to be printed. At that point it tells the printing system how many pixel to print in each inch.

    If you have 3000 pixel by 2000 pixel image and have it printed at 100 ppi (pixels per inch) the print will be 30 inches by 20 inches. (3000\100=30.00 ...2000/100=20.00.

    If you have the same 3000x2000 pixel image printed at 72 ppi it will be 3000/72=41.67 inches by 2000/72=27.77 inches.

    Some online print labs will not print images at less than 100 ppi because squares can start to be visible in the print, though those are usually cause dby the fact that the JPEG image format converts images to 8 pixel by 8 pixel squares when it reduces file size form the original image capture.
     
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  4. Garbz

    Garbz No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    sRGB is the key to everything here. It is the standard colour space. Colour spaces define how red a red is, how green a green is etc. sRGB is standard colour space that is assumed by every application that isn't colour aware. This includes the internet.

    This basically means you want a very good reason for not using sRGB. A very good reason would be that you actually take you images and print them on a good printer (we're talking 8 colour inkjets or professional labs). This is the only time you get any kind of different result. Even then you usually need to know what you're doing to get the benefit and not screw your colours.

    I would suggest to you if you shoot JPEG, then set your camera to sRGB to avoid the headache. If you shoot RAW, then set Adobe CameraRAW to sRGB on the bottom of the ACR window. If you process RAWs in Lightroom, then go into the options and change the profiles to sRGB.

    Colour management is a hassle, and causes a lot of headaches. If you're one of the very very very few people who take their image to print giving it the kind of attention and money that would benefit from a wide colour space, then learn how to use it, but even then it's usually a hassle and worth sticking with sRGB.
     

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