Pigeons - something or nothing?

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  1. Johnboy2978

    Johnboy2978 No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Is this something or nothing? I kind of like it, but haven't decided yet.
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    i'm thinking a tighter crop to remove some information and place objects in compositional quadrants.
    something like this:

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    I think the idea is good, but I just don't like the old man. I think without him it would have been a much better picture, even without the cropping.
     
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    the original is much better IMO. the crop leaves me without a sense of space (judging from the architecture of the backdrop, this is an old monument or historic structure of sorts); and the presence of the old man tells a story in perhaps he and the pigeons are old friends that meet occasionally. again, for me, excellent work! :thumbsup:
     
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    in the original composition my eyes first go to the stairway lower left, then up to the column on the left. i'm not convinced that they are the intended subjects, though i could be wrong. my mind is in conflict with the diagonals, verticals, horizontals, dimensional (stairs). the birds and the man are, frankly, secondary considerations when i look at it.

    question: were you trying to catch an emotive scene or a natural scene? ie - a photograph or a picture?
     
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    be that as it may, images are like songs in that the composers are leaving you with something to interpret yourself. although my eyes may be drawn to those areas first, the man and birds are the subject for me as i get a strong feeling of isolation intermingled with copanionship rather than a composition of lines. just my .02 worth.
     
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    then my education in musical composition differs from yours.
    we agree to disagree.
     
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    I think it is something but would crop the stairs. I find them leading my eye away from the man.
     
  9. John E.

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    I think at the very least at little cropping on the right side is in order, the subject is too centered and all the action is happening on the left side.

    Edit: Almost forgot to say the picture is worth keeping, the man and the pigeons do have appeal.
     
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    I like the top shot better. Any way you can lighten the pidgeons tho? They are a tad dark for me.

    Oh.. and definately a "something."
     
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    ew sky rats!! maybe a closer shot of the sky rats would be better?
     
  12. Firelance

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    The shot is good!
    My thoughts:

    -A bit more contrast
    -Cropping would do good, but there's a lack of space in motcon's cropped version.
    -The old man is good I guess, I think you just have to compare this and a picture without him to see what's best.
     

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