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  1. zoe08

    zoe08 TPF Noob!

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    these are some of the pics I took for the high key shots of my assignment. These are the best ones. In a lot of them the shirts turned out really bright and it just looked like a floating head, but at the same time the face wasnt as bright as I thought it should be in high key. Can someone please give me some tips on how to improve? Should I have them wear a light color but maybe not white?

    I feel like I really did not get very many good pictures out of this session, and I only have one left on friday for 2 hours.


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    these 2 are my favorites...

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  2. JenniferLynn

    JenniferLynn TPF Noob!

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    What are you using to diffuse your light source, and what is your setup? It appears your lights may need to be turned down a bit....

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    I have one main w/brolly box camera right, reflector camera left, backlight behind my drop and fill light back left on the other side of reflector.
     
  3. zoe08

    zoe08 TPF Noob!

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    Well I did a few different things he told us to try, I did some with white reflector left and under with a black to the right and I used a large soft box in front and in some there is a background light. That set up varies a little but they all have the large softbox in front.

    And from my understanding of high key, from what my teacher said and what it shows in my textbook, I thought it was brighter than that.
     
  4. JenniferLynn

    JenniferLynn TPF Noob!

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    My background is blown...which is what I learned to be high key :)

    Are your lights turned all the way down?
     
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    zoe08 TPF Noob!

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    I think I had the lights on 125watts, possibly 250.

    According to my textbook, the subject is supposed to be brighter. In the pictures your subjects are exposed as if it was a normal picture or according to my professor and textbook, would be considered mid key.

    I did e-mail my professor and asked him what exactly he was looking for cuz I have gotten different things for high key. Hopefully he will get back to me soon.
     
  6. JenniferLynn

    JenniferLynn TPF Noob!

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    Right, my backdrop is blown, if my subject was any brighter, it would blow the photo IMO. I'm guessing we have learned 2 different ways here.

    You asked for help, I offered. I apologize if it's not what you're looking for.
     
  7. LaFoto

    LaFoto Just Corinna in real life Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Zoe, if it helps you any, let me tell you that we once had this fun assignment here on TPF going with High Key being our task

    (http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35086)

    There are some humble attempts of total non-photographers (such as myself) in there to be seen, plus some discussion on what IS high key after all ... it might not bring you any further with regards to your own school assignment, but might offer you one or the other idea. You might want to check that one out? (Most of us contributing to that TPF Assignment were "poking around in the mud", not really knowing what they were supposed to do and how to achieve this effect).
     
  8. JonK

    JonK I want MORE!!

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    to me these shots (yours zoe) just look blown out completely...I think there's a diff. between that and hi-key. I'm no expert on high key just giving my opinion on these pics. They are way way overexposed.
    Are you metering these shots? That is essential. Are you shooting digital? If you are you should be able to check your results right away and make any adjustments.
    I don't think anything should be blown out completely in hi-key and jennifers are good examples...she's still got detail in her hilights.

    Dunno if I'm helping here and I hope I'm not being too harsh. Maybe Markc will chime in here too...he seems to have a good handle on hi-key.
     
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    zoe08 TPF Noob!

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    LaFoto, THanks for the thread. From what I have seen so far, it looks like many of them see it somewhat the way I do, where the subject is much brighter than would be in a normal photo, such as the ones above. Unfortunately, a lot of the images are not showing up, I dont know if it was cuz they are not hosted anymore cuz the thread was from a while back.

    I know hers are great photos, but what I am trying to say is that according to my textbook, they are just normal (mid key) photos, the subject is not overexposed at all, and according to my textbook it should be.

    This is the look I was going for, it is from a member on another forum I hope no one minds...

    http://www.texasphotoforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17377
     
  10. JenniferLynn

    JenniferLynn TPF Noob!

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    I certainly understand the look you're going for but honestly was never taught that to be "high key". That was always called "overexposed"...or "hot".
    I was always taught to blow the background while keeping your subject properly exposed.....and always have. Never have I been told otherwise :) Regardless, it doesn't matter...good luck with your studies!
     
  11. JonK

    JonK I want MORE!!

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    found this:

    definition:
    High key

    High key subjects concentrate on the lighter tones, using subject matter that is white or pale tones, and using flat overall lighting to avoid shadows.
    High key is often used to portray a delicate or feminine intention. Most high key pictures contain small areas of dark tones - for example in the iris of the eyes in a portrait; without a small dark or black area high key effects can appear too washed out or insipid.
     
  12. JenniferLynn

    JenniferLynn TPF Noob!

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    Thanks for that info Jon :)
     

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