Poor Man's Holy Trinity - Relatively Speaking

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  1. PhotoXopher

    PhotoXopher TPF Noob!

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    I can't afford the Nikon setup so here's what I'm thinking...

    Sigma

    I'm not a pro, or even a serious amateur - but I do enjoy my hobby and want the best I can afford.

    Right now I have the Sigma 18-250 which I love but I am going to have to sell to get my new trio.

    Sigma 14-24 f/2.8 (Do they even make one?)
    Sigma 24-70 f/2.8
    Sigma 70-200 f/2.8

    OR

    I am thinking I may be able to get by with a duo...

    Sigma 18-50 f/2.8
    Sigma 70-200 f/2.8

    I don't think I'd miss that 51-69 range, but it's not as complete either.

    Anyone have either setup that can push me one way or the other? I do find myself shooting wider than 24 quite often which is why I'd go with the 18-50 over the 24-70 in a 2 lens setup.

    Thanks for any comments/suggestions!


    EDIT
    Looks like Sigma answered my question - it appears they don't make a 14-24 or 12-24 lens in an f/2.8 so I'll be going with the 18-50 and 70-200.

    I can't wait!
     
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    I was in a similar situation a year ago. I bought the 18-50 f/2.8 but decided against the sigma 70-200 f/2.8 and got the canon 70-200 f/4 instead. They are a similar price. Canons prob cheaper. I have to say i love both lenses but altho not a pro or gifted photog by any means i do notice a distinct difference in quality between the canon and the sigma. Altho i have lost a stop of light i wouldnt trade it for the sigma now altho i would trade it for the canon version! The canons also seem to hold their value better in terms of resale.
     
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    I suppose I could get the Nikon 80-200 f/2.8 instead of the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 for a few hundres more but then I'm really spreading the middle range open (50-80).

    I've read really good reviews on the Sigmas so I think I'm going to stick with that route, plus I really enjoy my Sigma 18-250.
     
  4. Antithesis

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    I had a Sigma 70-200 and it was really, noticeably soft wide-open. To the point where it was unusable at 2.8. You can get the "two-touch" Nikon 80-200's for pretty cheap and they are very sharp from what I hear.

    I think if I were going to buy a poor man's lens line-up, I'd get a third party 12-24 (like a Tokina, but make sure you can trade if you get a poor copy), 35 1.8, 50 1.4 and a 80-200. It leaves some gaps in your line-up, but you can usually get buy without those weird focal lengths (like, between 50-80... you can use 50 or 80 perfectly well for portraiture). Plus, you end up with much sharper images and a couple stops more light when you need it. You can probably get everything for like ~$1600-$1800 depending where you shop.
     
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    Sigma has a great wide angle lens, definatly a good purchase. I was going to get one but got a gift certificate to a shop that didnt stock Sigma and I bought the Canon.

    Sigma | 10-20mm f/4-5.6D EX DC HSM Autofocus Lens | 201306 | B&H

    I believe they may of come out not too long ago with a newer model, possibly a constant aperture (thinking 3.5)
     
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    Not to put down the Sigma, but I thought the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 was a better lens. I'm impressed by images I have seen from the 17-50. If you want to go 'budget', maybe the older 17-35 Tamron Di 2.8~4, which is a good wide zoom, the superb Nikon 35-70 f/2.8 D, and a used 80-200 f/2.8 AF-D Nikkor two-touch zoom? The range might be limited, but the 35-70 2.8 is really quite a fine lens, and I've seen clean copies selling in the $300 range as recently as this summer.
     
  7. NateS

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    If you want an "unholy" trinity (since they're mainly third party)....I'd suggest

    Sigma 10-20
    Sigma 24-70 HSM (heard great things about this one)
    Nikon 80-200 f2.8


    Everybody says that the 80-200 f2.8 is everybit as sharp as the 70-200...just minus VR. I would definitely sport the extra for the 80-200 over the Sigma 70-200. I've seen a lot of soft images being posted from the Sigma which leaves me unimpressed.
     
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    I went with the sigma 24-70 hsm 2.8 and the 70-200 nikon. Love them both.

    Saved a bit on the 24-70 and bought a nikon teleconverter for the 70-200.
     
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    get the Nikon 80-200, trust me, you won't miss the range from 50-80mm. You won't even notice it. because when you want something longer than 50mm, you'll want 80, and when you want wider, you'll want 50. Not 60, or 70.

    Sigma makes a pretty inexpensive used 14mm f/2.8 prime. I don't know how good it is though, i wouldn't expect too much however.
     
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    I thought the Poor Man's Holy Trinity was 1) a comfortable chair 2) a color TV set with cable TV and a good remote 3) a six-pack. Seriously.

    I'd agree with SwitchFX on the area between 50mm and 80mm not being all that necessary if one has an 80-200 zoom lens. I reqlly,really,really think your idea of the DUO makes the most sense, with an 18-50 Sigma or the Tamron 17-50; 24-70 on APS-C is just not my idea of a good lens for,well, hardly anything except outdoor scenic work....the 24mm to 35mm zone of a 25-70 is simply not wide enough for wide-angle shots, at all. 17-50 or 18-50 is an entirely different ballgame.
     
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    Thank you all for the input... I've decided to go with a dual for now, and my first purchase will be this week - just not sure which.

    Sigma 18-50 or Tamron 17-50... hmmm.
     
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    Kind of off topic, but that prime goes for like ~$600+ if you can find one. Nikon's release of full frame cameras has kept the price up.
     

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