press passes. . . have one?

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  1. newrmdmike

    newrmdmike TPF Noob!

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    who all has a press pass? have one or understand what they give you access to?
    so what exactly does it do for you? shed some light for me . . . would it get a camera in a concert? will it keep police from arresting/harassing you for photographing a wreck, etc.
    i don't really see a need for one that often, unless people don't want you taking their picture and you explain to them they may be in the newspaper yay!

    i've done ride alongs with fire depts, and will soon be on an oil rig in the gulf of thailand . . . so what gives? what would i need a press pass for?


    also, a press pass is just the credentials your press service sends you right? fill me in people!
     
  2. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I'm not certain...but I would think that a pass would come from the venue although maybe it would come via the media outfit that you work for. In this case, the (newspaper) would request a pass from the organizer of the event.

    I know that for concerts, there are press passes made up and handed out, either to the media outlet or to the photographer directly. The pass only grants access...there are other rules in place. For example, it's common that an music act will only allow photos for the first three songs or maybe only the first three minutes. I think this is because that is when they look fresh...and they don't want bad looking photos of them in the papers the next day. I've had full access at hundreds of big concerts but have never brought my camera.
     
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    Well, what I saw last weekend, the pro from the local adjudicated newspaper had an official pass issued from the local sheriff's department. He had it hanging around his neck on a piece of yarn like a cow bell.

    I imagine it kept him being harassed as a pervert if he took photos of kids and permitted some kind of access to crime and accident scenes.

    I don't care to have access to crime or accidents. I only photograph happy or inanimate things.

    I noticed the local politicos were kissing his,... .. stuff.

    I prefer my, ... .. stuff- dry.
     
  4. Jeff Canes

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    There are several options. But you need a good reason for a pass they just do give to anybody.

    For events like sports and concert the general rule is that you need to be part of the “Working Press”, that mean you are shooting for particular new media outlet or wire service. The company you are shooting for request a pass for the event/season. The when and how depends on the event size. Also you only have “Fair Use” right for your photos, check US copyright laws at loc.gov And they can and do tell you where you can shoot from.

    With shooting news on the street you can try work with local paper or one of wire service. They with issue you an ID. I do not know any one working this way, not sure of any details

    the only wire service I can think of now are wireimage.com and uspresswire.com but i don't think they pay well
     
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    Press passes aren't generic. They are issued by the coordinators of an event to people who apply for them. News photographers have an ID from their respective employers. That may or may not substitute for a press pass depending on the coordinators and the event.

    Once upon a time, I was a photographer for a pro baseball team. I had an ID that would get me into the ball park whenever there was a game or practice. It was the same ID employees of the baseball team had. However, it wouldn't get me into the park for any other event unless I applied for a press pass like everyone else and was granted one. Whenever the team issued press passes for some special team event like an exhibition game, they even issued one to me and they all knew me by name and had seen me hundreds of times.

    What a press pass does is give you access to an event so that you can photograph it. It doesn't do anything else that I can imagine.
     
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    so press credentials from a wires service etc will prolly only make it easier to get a press pass at an event from the coordinators. or keep you out of trouble on the streets. ?
     
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    I don't know for sure, but I've been to plenty of sporting events and saw how it worked when I played. Most bigger events I would think, esp. if they are held at an arena or something would issue their own passes. Of course it would help to get one if you were working for a news paper or some sort of media outlet.

    As far as public stuff like special access to places the police would be the way to go. I tried to get access to the roof of a building for shooting fireworks the other day but I didn't give enough time for the police dept. to respond.
     
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    i would say that sound about right
     
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    A press pass from a wire service may or may not help you out on the streets. Assuming you're talking about interactions with the police. I know that the state police in Louisiana issue press passes and that is all they supposedly will acknowledge.
     
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    There are different types of press passes.

    1) Issued by the news gathering organization you are working for.
    These really are nothing more than a business card typically worn around your neck with your photo. All these do is identify you as a person that works for the organization named on the pass. Usually, you can bluff the ignorant with the card.

    2) Issued by an event or venue.
    Most press passes are by event and issued by the venue or the promoters. If you are with a large organization ... the event will either contact the organization and ask how many passes, or just send passes directly to the organization. Passes are issued by size/importance of the organization. So a wire service with a potential of world wide viewing/impressions will get first dibs ... next large regional papers ... then smaller papers ... et cetera. Remember that passes are limited to space. So if it's a basketball game ... you have to triage the passes because of lack of room. But at a off road race ... because of the room ... everybody is welcomed. If you are with a smaller new group you will have to request a pass from the venue or promoters.

    3) Issued by Regional/Local Government
    These passes are issued by a governmental agency. In California it is the California Highway Patrol. These passes are "official" are not only identify you as a member of the press, but will actually allow you behind police lines. The news organization peditions the government agency for the pass and must present a letter from an editor backed with tear sheets and a background check.

    4) Issued by the Federal Government
    These are for shooting the president and federal officials. Again, qualification is by pedition from the news organization to the FBI. Then a background check and fingerprinting. Allows you get get close to the prez.

    Gary
     
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    coooooooool. and thanks for clarifying!
     
  12. jstuedle

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    At major concerts you will be issued a P.P. by the organizer of the event. Major acts will issue restrictions on the time to shoot. The last time I went to one it was in fact 3 min. An associate tripped his flash about 10 sec. too late and had to surrender all of his film and was escorted out. The only thing I have now is all access passes for a few regional bands, and a freelance press pass I made up and laminated myself. It works for the local county events I go to here. The locals either don't know better, or they recognize me and let it "pass".
     

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