hello i am new here but not to shooting. i am pretty proficient in photoshop but i am never quite happy with my photography when it comes down to processing it. i can never achieve the look i am after. here are some examples of the treatment i am looking to achieve. We The Kings on Flickr - Photo Sharing! Cartel on Flickr - Photo Sharing! You Me At Six on Flickr - Photo Sharing! the colors seem desaturated in a way, but vibrant in another, i cant describe it, they look kind of "pastel" to me. please if there is anyone out there who can lead me towards this technique i would highly appreciate it.