I have recieved a cool lesson from a friend from Austrailia, MozzMan, who is a very cool guy, and an excellent photog. I gave him a short tour of TPF and he is now a participating member. He taught me a bit about layers, and tweaking pics, so I thought everyone here might be willing to toss their 2 cents in.. all comments welcome. posting both the original and the edited.. Nikon D70 2005/09/19 02:52:04.1 JPEG (8-bit) Fine Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000) Lens: 70-300mm F/4-5.6 D Focal Length: 300mm Exposure Mode: Manual Metering Mode: Center-Weighted 1/160 sec - F/5.6 Exposure Comp.: 0 EV Sensitivity: ISO 400 Optimize Image: Sharp White Balance: Auto AF Mode: Manual Flash Sync Mode: Front Curtain Auto Flash Mode: Built-in M Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB) Tone Comp.: Auto Hue Adjustment: 0° Saturation: Normal Sharpening: High Image Comment: Long Exposure NR: Off thanks for looking!