Questions for C&Cers here

Discussion in 'Photography Beginners' Forum' started by Tulsa, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. Tulsa

    Tulsa TPF Noob!

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    Now keep in mind, I do not consider myself a pro or close to it, I am just an amateur photographer, and have been for the past 3ish years... but...
    I like to try and give input and help Newbs, I am honest, If I like it I will tell you. If I dont like it, I will give suggestions on how to improve on a certain picture or in the future.

    It seems the majority of people giving c&c are newbs that that ask the same questions in one form or another. It seems most of the seasoned photographers rarely chime in. There is a handfull that chime in that you see everytime but when I go around the rest of the site, they are a fraction of members here.

    It just seems pointless to see someone tell a poster their photos are great when they are not, hopefully all the seasoned photographers comments overpower the, " I really like that picture, its cool" comments.
    Am I wrong?
     
  2. Darkhunter139

    Darkhunter139 TPF Noob!

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    Id much rather someone point out the flaws in my photos and give me honest C&C then simply comment "nice photo". If you are going to say you like the photo at least say why.
     
  3. reznap

    reznap No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I can't speak for everyone, but I think it's pretty obvious (by reading other posts, looking at examples of their work, etc) who knows their stuff on here. There was another thread on here which had a LOT of people commenting in which was centered around c&c and was basically saying something similar.

    The reason I joined this forum was because of the more honest comments in this very 'beginners' section' and I hope it continues to be that way.

    Personally, I don't read a "hey good job" and feel better about what I'm doing, that's not why I'm here. If I post something I want to hear about how it could be better. More than that, I want to see what others are doing and learn from their example, good or bad.

    So yeah... I don't think you're wrong but as I mentioned before, I can't speak for everyone.
     
  4. indeedies

    indeedies TPF Noob!

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    Are we doing this again? It seems there was a thread just like this last week. And the week before that and the week before that...
     
  5. Tulsa

    Tulsa TPF Noob!

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    Really? must have missed it.

    In that case, how many times do we need a thread asking what is your favorite lens, which flash should I get. If you dont like seeing repetition here, might not be a good section to be in.:sexywink:

    I apologize if there was a thread just like this.
     
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    ks0385 TPF Noob!

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    Link to said thread please.
     
  7. IgsEMT

    IgsEMT No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I missed last week's thread but will hit this one. You aren't wrong but giving CC isn't always pure as B&W ;) (Ironic)
    My thing with giving feedback really depends on my mood of typing. If I'm in the mood, then I'll go through exposure, lighting, composition, emotion, story, processing, etc etc give +/- and ways to improve. If I'm not in the mood then I'll point out some negatives only and ways to improve them.

    Sometimes though, there's just really nice and work and all there's to say is "NICE, cool, etc etc etc" :)

    And other times, photogs know their work is nice but they are showing it off awaiting for ppl to say nice, cool which just boosts egos.

    So b/n the last 2 you never know which one is which therefore if the work is nice, IT IS NICE.

    Regardless, there's always room for improvement for any photographer at any level of his/hers expertise.
     
  8. Bitter Jeweler

    Bitter Jeweler Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    hower610 TPF Noob!

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    I was happy with the C & C you gave me. You helped reinforce what I need to focus on to progress.
     
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    matfoster TPF Noob!

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    maybe. value judge-ments, regarding photography-for-pleasure, are subjective, personal and tempered by things which an observer can never fully appreciate of another person's rationale. if the comments posted don't mirror your own beliefs..that's life. attempt to state/restate your view(s) as much as you feel it's useful to do so, then move on to the next thing.
     
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    It seems that a lot of new shooters will get their very first DSLR, take a few test shots, post the test shots up and ask for C&C. One look at the images and you know they didn't put much thought into the shot (if any). How do you handle these? Do you give them words of encouragement? Do you give them a real critique and hurt their feelings? Just ignore the thread?
     
  12. Overread

    Overread has a hat around here somewhere Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I was posting and getting feedback for a long time before I started to actually think about what I was taking photos of - heck many of my shots now boil down to little more than a grabshot - shooting nature though gave me the slight advantage that one can get away with this a little longer but in the end its still a problem. Infact the art of showing what you want in photography is no small skill for many and takes (often) years to finally develop.

    As for how one deals with a thread were a person is new - politly, respectfully and honestly. If you can't get all three in at once I would say ignor - I see a lot of short - single sentance comments that are "C&C" which are very generic and harsh but give little for the OP to work with.

    Yes TPF has a lot of beginners and Yes that means there will be loads of such threads on the site. If you don't like don't post - if you feel that is all there is to TPF then don't stay or visit as much - or heck you know start interesting threads of your own ;)

    As for giving Real critique - some have it in their heads that real critique has to be harsh and brutal otherwise its "sugarcoating" the issue. I don't subscribe to that viewpoint, I do however subscribe to being as honest as I can - drawing on both the good and bad points and trying to show and offer advice as to how the photographer in question might go about solving the bad points in their shot. I don't always try to cover everything in one go - people don't learn that way - it has to be built up over time with getting the little bits right. Hopefully if the person hangs around and keeps getting feedback they will soon start to develop and their overall ability will thus improve as well.
     

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