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  1. ferny

    ferny TPF Noob!

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    ****ing kids. One kid smacks another around the ear and then ignores me when I try to sort him out. He then ignores the person above me who they normally listen so she grabs the head of the year who gets him to do what he wants by saying "if you don't come inside you won't be able to go to Drayton Manor". What the ****? He's just smacked a kid around the head, ignored two people and now you're bargaining with him? Five minutes later they let him outside.
    Another kid goes off on on, won't calm down. All I can do is the stupid "now Ryan, calm down, come here" crap. Indecently, the other kid was called Ryan as well. Coincidence? If it was my kid I'd put my hands on his shoulders, push him against the wall and make it clear that until he calmed down and listened he was going nowhere. But no, I'm only just allowed to breathe near them. I have to check my breath first though, or I'll get in trouble for harming him.
    Another one who isn't allowed outside until next Tuesday because he called my boss a "mother ****er" told me that when the head teacher isn't there he takes himself out and plays. Then right at the end he comes back inside so he doesn't get caught.

    The kids need a kick up the arse. They run the school.

    Bring back the fecking cane.


    Rant over.
     
  2. Meysha

    Meysha still being picky Vicky

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    It's almost sad I have to ask this but I can't tell ... highschool or primary?

    I know how you feel. It's so frustrating how rude they are. I had some horrible kids in my highschool. One class was horrible - with one girl in that class in particular. Had to put the whole class in detention and I think the girl got suspended in the end. I left before I found out.
    The rest of my classes were excellent and well behaved though I had to be really strict with them.

    But I agree there is something really screwed up with the kids' behaviour and respect.
     
  3. ferny

    ferny TPF Noob!

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    The first and last kid are 11. The one in the middle is 9. There is just no control there. They get away with murder and most people don't care because that way their lives are easier. But for the people who want to do their job properly it's a pain in the arse. It also means that if something serious happens, you're fecked.
    It's odd how it only takes a couple of kids to ruin it. The rest are fine and some of them great.
     
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    actually they way you really wanna handle this is the way it was handled during my school years. teachers, principles, deans would routine smack, grab, shove soap down your throat or whatever to keep you in line. if a curse word was uttered, it was a major offense where a meeting was called; you were suspended and parents had to escort you back to school to appear before a committee. ha, i grew up in an orphanage and received the same kinda stuff there as well...so there was no escape ;) but, those rules and actions instilled discipline and respect into me and im a better person for it today.

    governments think they are doing society a favour by stepping in and "protecting" children. to a degree it's helpful, but they're creating a society where respect and honor isn't important. i see it every day!

    the ultimate responsibility for those kids belongs with their parents.

    sorry for your frustration...i hear ya all too well!
     
  5. Corry

    Corry Flirtacious and Bodacious Supporting Member

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    It can be pretty difficult to keep a large group of kids in line. Especially when many of them probably don't get any structure or discipline at home. In my childrens group, I have a THREE YEAR OLD who will just walk up to someone and hit them or bite them, for absolutely no reason...and then when you are trying to discipline and tell this child that it is wrong to do that, all you get is a blank stare...like the kid isn't even hearing what you are saying. It's very frustrating. Especially when the kid is so young, and already numb, and seemingly sociopathic.
     
  6. ferny

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    Sounds like that kid needs assessing. He may have a proper problem. There are loads of them at the school I'm at and many more who clearly do have problems but we get told they're fine. I'm thinking of one who is almost like the kid you described but he's 9. He'll not listen to you, find it hard to concentrate and control himself sometimes and generally show himself up. I caught him watching another boy getting changed last time I took them swimming. That was just after he ran around in his underwear whilst still wearing his swimming hat and five minutes after I'd chucked him into his cubicle to get changed he lost his underwear and couldn't find it.... The reports on him have come back and referred to him as "a very happy young man".
     
  7. Corry

    Corry Flirtacious and Bodacious Supporting Member

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    It's kinda scary with the kid I'm talking about. I've known this child since birth, and only on very rare occasions seen any kind of emotion shown.
     
  8. Alison

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    Lots of kids at that age hit and bite for no reason. At my son's school we've had several incidents of having to sign reports because they've gotten bit or scratched or otherwise run over. My oldest son does very much what you've described when he's in trouble, he avoids eye contact and it seems like he's not listening. Hopefully he's not on the path to being a sociopath :mrgreen:

    EDIT: Just saw your post above that you've know the child for a long time. Not showing emotion at that age is a very concerning sign. It's good he has someone who cares in his life.
     
  9. Corry

    Corry Flirtacious and Bodacious Supporting Member

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    This isn't like that, though. I've been working with kids enough to know when it's normal behavior, and this is definatly not normal. What you are describing does sound like what I've seen lots of kids do. What this kid does has all of the group facilitators worried. No emotion almost at all.
     
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    learn how to do kidney punches - works for the police :D
     
  11. Alison

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    Yeah, I saw your post after I posted mine. I'm glad that he's at least been identified as being at risk and at such a young age. I hope things improve for him.
     
  12. Corry

    Corry Flirtacious and Bodacious Supporting Member

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    Sure, it's been identified, but unfortunately, it's up to the parents to do something about it, and that probably won't happen until the situation is way out of control, unfortunately. :(
     

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