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    I am brand new to digital photography. If I plan to use RAW only, can I just put those images into a folder or whatever until I get conversion software? TIA
     
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    If you don't have any software that will work with RAW yet, I'd strongly suggest just shooting in JPG, or RAW+JPG if your camera will do that. I'm sure others will disagree (this is one of the topics that will start huge holy wars, lol), but for the most part I find RAW to be a big waste of time and disk space. And yes I've shot both RAW and JPG. The only time RAW has really saved me on a photo is when I had poor or incorrect technique to begin with, in which case I'd rather just fix my technique rather than having to screw around with big clumsy memory card eating slower processing RAW files. And yes, I make big prints too.

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    download picassa its free and will convert raw.


    i have been told this but dont ask me how to do it cause ive never tried it.

    its either that prog or ifanview thats free too.

    its one or the other


    perhaps someone else could confirm
     
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    Your camera is capable of RAW but didn't come with the software to process it? Odd... There's some freeware stuff about for RAW, the one I know of is UFRaw - http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/

    I believe there's more, but I don't know where / what...
     
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    ^ He didn't say which camera he was getting, but I see some film Nikons in his profile, and Nikon DSLRs don't come with the Capture NX software that will handle their RAW files for the most part. I think the new D300 and D3 come with it, but only or a limited time on launch.
     
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    Download Rawshooter Essentials. It's a good program and easy to use. Not as good as Lightroom of course but it still has all the functions you need. When Adobe released Lightroom, they bought Pixmantec (manufacturer of Rawshooter Essentials) and had the free version removed from the official site etc. But you can still find the free 2006 version just by using google. ;)
    http://www.photo-freeware.net/raw-shooter-essentials.php

    Shoot RAW dammit - it has more advantages than disadvantages!
     
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    Oh? Fair enough then... I thought it was standard that anything that could shoot RAW would come with the software for processing, even if it was an old or cut down version of a commercial product. <shrug> Guess not!

    Rabieshund, I'm checking out that link too, thanks :) [edit] - Bummer, doesn't appear to support the PEF files outta the K10 :( Oh well...
     
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    Thank you! Yes there are film cameras in my profile, that is what I will always shoot primarily. I had a D1 fall into my lap for cheap and since I have AF lens' for my F4 that are fully compatible, I bought it. I just wanted to know if I could dump whatever pictures I might take with it on a computer and someday get around to playing around with them. What I did not know was the fact that Nikon, Canon or whomever, had their own "language".
     
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    go to the nikon site and download the free software .
     
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    Well that's the problem with what you're doing. RAW files are all proprietary, the files all change format, the software all changes, and you might find that a year from now none of the RAW software out there will work with your D1 files anymore at worst, or just doesn't seem to handle them well. This is especially true since the D1 is a pretty old camera that not a whole lot of people shoot with anymore. There's little reason for software developers to keep supporting old D1 files considering that so few are still used. You might have to dig up some extremely old software to use the files, which then might not even run if it wasn't designed for the newer operating systems out there which all change too. This is why RAW is a horrible format for archival or if you're not going to immediately process them into JPGs. That's why I'd strongly recommend shooting JPG for now, which is universal. You can still do a ton of processing on JPGs too, if that's what you're interested in.

    In the rare cases I shoot RAW, I shoot RAW+JPG, and then when I'm working through my photos doing post-processing I still usually stick with the JPGs. Once in awhile I'll find a good keeper photo that I've managed to screw up badly enough to process from the RAW file instead. Once I have all of my post processing done and have my final images, I DELETE all of the RAW files since they just eat up a ton of disk space.
     
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    Thanks Mav! I understand what you are saying. I now know that the files are proprietary. If I want to shoot RAW, I find Nikon Capture which will handle the D1 RAW files and I am good to go.
     
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    The easy solution here is just to not upgrade your software, or keep an old version installed for handling the older files....


    I would have thought it was the better archival medium as it doesn't throw any information away like a JPEG does - If you want to pull more out of the photo later, you're more likely able to do it with RAW....

    Personally I shoot RAW because I'm a poor photographer, I do make mistakes, and it's easier to fix them from a RAW. :blushing:
     

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