Sally Mann great photographer or glorified child pornographer?

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    Nudity is not porn.. (except in the minds of some religious nuts). Naked children presented in their daily lives, I have no problem with.. as long as it is done tastefully.

    I find something like the Jon Benet fiasco far more disgusting.. when a young girl is made up to look much older, and to act much older also.

    Unfortunately in our society, we have enough sick people that prey on children.. that it makes the wisdom of either nudity or child beauty pageants questionable.
     
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    I would say her photos definitely aren't pornography... The children aren't engaged in sexual activities or being portrayed in an overtly sexual manner, so she can't be called a pornographer any more than an artist working with non-sexual adult nudes could be. There is a definite double standard when it comes to gender with this sort of photography though; just imagine if a man was trying to do the same sort of thing, everyone would go completely nuts.
     
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    Very accomplished photographer regardless. Some people's opinion may differ and thats ok.
     
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    Many years ago, it was no big thing for children to be naked and have their picture taken. Lots of people would be in jail for babies on bear rugs:er:

    Even Jock Sturges nudes on the beach in France are bland imho and he took a terrible hit about them.

    These days people are "crazy" and cameras are the new guns.

    Her work does seem to be very polarizing but I won't call it porn.

    I happened to like her work.

    The history of photography is full of polarizing people, art seems to do that far more than some realize.
    We could list a whole slew of folks that many on this site and others like it don't understand, get or approve of the work. My feeling is that they aren't trained photographers, basically serious amateurs who have limited understanding of photography as an art form. This doesn't mean they shouldn't have an opinion, but many times that opinion is based on limited knowledge.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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    If you haven't seen it , rent What Remains from Netflex, very en lighting video about her, her family and the work.
     
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    Ann.. thanks.. will check that out! :)
     
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    I saw a naked kid in the tub on America's Funniest Home Videos yesterday and I see no porn in this artist's port. I do see images designed to invoke emotion, well done at that!
     
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    I may be the minority here, but nudity on a child from the waist up (bathtubs, beach, etc.), seems okay to me. These images that have nude young girls with full frontal nudity make me sick and I think are probably viewed more often by pedophiles than by "accepting" adults for their "artistic" content. Just my $0.02.
     
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    I do believe that pedophiles seek these images out, but that is not the fault or the intent of the photographer (at least not the ones I am talking about)

    Different intent, different world.
     
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    I do not think that her work is pornography or anywhere close to it. Anyone who has a child knows kids love to be naked, and her photos just capture that. I am sure though as mentioned pedophiles do seek these images :( There is no way to prevent sickos from getting off on what pleases them.
     
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    Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree. That's like saying that a person who drives drunk and kills another motorist is not at fault for driving drunk because they didn't intend to hit the other person. If you put these images out there, then you are de facto "at fault." You may choose to disagree.

    I could not view these images. Sorry. Not my cup of tea.
     

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