Save me from Ken Rockwell's advice

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  1. Photongraphy

    Photongraphy TPF Noob!

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    So, I decided to read Ken Rockwell's website for a while. It was the #1 result on Google for photography advice. However, I tend to seek other opinions before making any kind of purchase, so I googled "Ken Rockwell is a dumbass" and "Ken Rockwell is an idiot," the later which brought up this site.

    A lot of people seem to disagree with him.

    For a total newbie just starting out (I've been into the... point and shoot... scene... oh dear), what kind of camera is recommended? I'd love to take beautiful, clear pictures such as this:

    File:Hong Kong Skyline Restitch - Dec 2007.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

    I don't understand the whole "lens" thingmabob, and I don't know what kind of DSLR I need. Any help would be greatly appreciated. :mrgreen: However, I don't want advice for Point & Shoot cameras. Right now, I am only interested in DSLR's due to what I've read everywhere.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, one more thing. I've been looking at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16830120355
     
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    Josh66 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    OK, that actually made me laugh, lol.

    Read this:

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm

     
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    Photongraphy TPF Noob!

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    Yeah, I read it. However, most people aren't going to read that horrific wall of text. I'm basically looking for advice on getting started.
     
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    Josh66 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    But you did read it, so you should know better... Half of what he says is good advice, the other half is pure BS... If you can't tell which is which, don't read his site.

    For getting started, this forum is as good a place as any...
     
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    djacobox372 No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    That photo you linked to is more about one's photoshop skills then the camera. It's a restitch that could be done from photos from a 5 year old point and shoot.

    My advice is to keep educating yourself about photography and then pick a camera system that suits you. Most people do the reverse of this.

    Where do you stand on these topics?

    Low Light photography
    Macro photography
    Telephoto photography
    Resolution/Sharpness
    Narrow depth of field
    Speed
     
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    KmH Helping photographers learn to fish Supporting Member

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    From the beginning of Ken's About page:

     
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    Josh66 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Yes (...like I said...), and if you can't see the humor even in that quote, there's something wrong with you...

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    just like any other good news organization, I love to stretch the truth"... :lol:
    I mean..., come on...! That's good stuff, lol.

    If you can separate the fact from the fiction, his site is not bad... And If you just want a good read, it's actually quite funny.

    Personally, I love his site. But not for the 'review' aspect of it. He certainly has the same sense of humor that I do - I find his site hilarious as hell.

    It's not his fault that it's the top result for any photography search on google...
     
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    Photongraphy TPF Noob!

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    Thanks for the replies. I'm probably wrong about everything, but...

    Like night vision? I'd love some good exposure setting with a remote control to catch photos of the stars, the milky way backdrop, etc... The idea of attaching the camera to a telescope is appealing.

    I think I've used this once. I guess it's to focus on something? *shrug*

    The zoom feature on my Point & Shoot is lame. I would like the ability to zoom without getting something that looks like Quake 1.

    In my opinion, the higher the resolution, the better it looks when resized, and the more detail is in the picture. Furthermore, I think sharpness is good, because I hate blurry photos. Doesn't that have to do with ISO?

    No idea.

    Shooting pictures quickly? Yes, I like this.

    And what kind of card should I use? 64 GB SDHC? Any particular brands to avoid, etc...?



    EDIT: I guess what matters to me the most is superb image quality with excellent low-light capabilities, a remote shutter switch, and a high resolution. I want to take night pictures of the cities I visit. I need to be able to manually set my exposure time, rather than be limited to 15 seconds on my current Point & Shoot. A good tripod would be sorely needed as well, preferably one that can handle panoramas. Right now, I use a cheap tripod and just manually turn it. :meh:
     
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    ann No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    It is wonderful when he reviews a piece of equipment he has never used :grumpy:
     
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    Garbz No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Low light photography: This just refers to the moments when you need to pull out a tripod. The term can be used for anything like a typical indoor house at night, to night time photo such as the city you just linked to, to star photography. The first is trivial to learn, the second a bit of a beyond the basics type thing, however taking photos of stars through satellites is a very advanced topic and would by easily considered throwing yourself in the very deep end.

    Macro Photography: Taking photos of something small

    Telephotography: Taking pictures of something far away. This does not imply zooming. It just implies far away. You can get fixed telephoto lenses and they cost as much as a small car, but have prevented many national geographic photographers from getting eaten by their subjects.

    Resolution and sharpness: One of the things to learn is how the system works, not just the camera. The Nikon D2h has a lower resolution sensor (megapixels) than the iPhone 4, but it takes far better and sharper pictures because of the glass.

    ISO: The sensitivity of the camera. The higher ISO the brighter the resulting image when everything else is held constant.

    Narrow depth of field: Picture says 1000 words: http://www.dphotoexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/true1point2web.jpg



    For your desires basically any DSLR and even many modern flexible point and shoots like the Canon G10 would suffice too.
     
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    Photongraphy TPF Noob!

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    Thanks. I appear to have mixed up Narrow Depth of Field. I thought that was a macro technique. Great advice, thanks!

    So pretty much any DSLR will do? I find this very appealing:

    Newegg.com - Canon EOS Rebel T1i Black 15.10 MP 3.0" 920K LCD Full HD Movie Digital SLR Camera w/ EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens

    with a tripod:

    Newegg.com - VANGUARD Alta+ 263AP Aluminum Alloy Tripod with Panhead

    But I need to know what kind of flash card I would need. I'm a little confused. Hoping for something around 64 GB if possible. Any advice?
     
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