apologies if this brings anyone down.. I'll post a happy thread too to counteract the bad karma.. BUT I don't know how many of you non-uk residents are aware of a certain 'case' occuring in the uk involving a Mr Tony Martin. He is a relativley old bloke living on a farm which has been burgled countless times in the past. The police have not done a lot to stop the burgleries and so one night when Mr Martin found 2 youths in his house, claiming self-defence, he shot one and injured the other. One of the lads died and Mr Martin got sent to prison for murder. The second lad who he injured has been given the right to sue Mr Martin for loss of earnings etc.. Mr Martin is now out of prison, under police protection, a traveller 'camp' has been set up near his home to try and intimidate him, he receives regular death threats BUT he also has a great deal of support from the british public who want the right to protect their home/loved ones and who think that if someone is breaking into YOUR house they should lose ALL rights not end up having more.. more details on the whole story here... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/3087003.stm Understandably, this whole thing has casued a lot of outrage in the uk.. both for Mr Martin getting sent down for 'protecting his own home' and for the criminal being allowed to sue Mr Martin. Agreed, there are a lot more factors to be taken into account on this case in particular (Mr Martins mental state, emotional state etc) but it raises many valid questions... What can one do to protect one's home? How far is too far? Is the criminal justice system a joke? Why do criminals seem to have more rights than the victims? does prison work? and in the case above, why has the REPEAT offender been let out of prison early? What do you non-uk people think of all this?