Signing prints.

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  1. DanielK

    DanielK TPF Noob!

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    Is there a right or wrong way to sign prints? I'd like to get everyone elses take on this.

    Also, what is a usual print run for your above average to spectacular prints? Do you print the hell out of the spectacular shots in a run of 1500 or do you make it kind of exclusive (and expensive to own) with a run of 15? How does one destroy a digital "negative"?

    I've had some experience with paintings and non-photography prints, but never with photographic prints.

    All input is very welcome.


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    I'm not currently bothering with limited runs. There's a rather humorous, and I think informative, article in the April/May edition of LensWork titled Money Games by Brooks Jensen. I agree with a lot of what he says. I don't see a lot of those price-boosting techniques working until a person has made a name for themselves anyway, and I'm not there yet.

    As for signing, on the back with pencil and on the matte seems to be a good choice. I've taken to putting capture and print date on, like "2002-2004".
     
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    Our teacher made us sign the year on the left side and our name on the right side, under the print on the front of the matte board.
     
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    it's a personal thing, really. i sign the back of board, not the front. i also include a tag with print details and a certificate of authenticity that have my signature. if someone likes my print, they'll keep them, otherwise the next generation will have to see my name on the back when trying to sell it at a yard sale.
     
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    Does anyone else have some input? I'm new to this and could really use some advice.


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    I feel that the signature on the front detracts from the image. Sometimes I can deal with it if it's done in light pencil on the mat. I either sign on the back of the matboard the photo is mounted on, or the back of the photo itself (in pencil), if it's not mounted. Sometimes I sign the board the photo is mounted on if there is going to be an overmat (the signature would be covered by the overmat, but could be seen by lifting the overmat). I like Motcon's idea of including a "certificate" with the details and signature.

    Terri and I are trading prints, and she asked me to sign it, so I tried out signing it neatly below the image on the photo itself. I hate it so much that I'm going to reprint and try something else. Sorry, Terri, it'll probably be another week, and you may have to be happy with a certificate of authenticity. :?
     
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    What if you sell or trade the images unmatted?

    And do you include the copyright on there somewhere?


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  8. terri

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    Bastard!! Just kidding..... sweetie, consider this: YOU won't have to look at it - I will. And I want my SIGNED Matt Needham print, damn you. :wink: I want to brag on it.

    See, I'm of the thought that - it matters. Putting your name to a piece of your work - it matters. How you do it, where you do it - I agree with Will; it's personal preference. But to just - NOT sign a print, puts it on a level with any old un-named photographer wanna-be who puts out gimmicky plonk in a hotel lobby for a "starving-artist" weekend.....does that make sense?? If you do good work, and you know it's good work....then you attach your name to that piece with pride, damn you. :p (And - you SEND THEM to the people who say it matters.) :wink:

    Just my humble little opinion. :D

    (Poor Matt - I signed my print, right on the print itself, where you HAVE to see it! bwahahahaha!!!!!!) :twisted:
     
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    I'm with Terri on that. I personally don't care for it right on the print, but I love having it on the front of the matte. Otherwise it becomes anonymous. I want it somewhere on there. The signature, frame, etc., all become part of the finished piece of art for me.
     
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    Just my opinion! I don't like it when mats are signed. The mat is not the art, it's just a mat. What happens when the owner decides they want to change the mat color or something? Your sig is gone. Sign the art. Either on the mount board, below the print, or on the print itself, as terri did, if it can be done well so it blends well with the print. Or if the print has a white border, then you can sign in the white space, which would be covered by the mat when framed.
     
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    I'm going to look the next time I'm at the art museums I frequent, but I don't recall seeing many signed photographs.

    I expect people to mount a brass plaque with my name on the wall near my print! :D
     
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    Like with any art, I expect there are a lot of different opinions on this. I actually do consider the matte and frame as part of the art. If a buyer wants to change it, that's their choice, but then it's not displayed as I intended it. Someone might think that a certain base looks lousy for a sculpture they bought and change that, or they might splash a little blue on a painting where they think it needs it. They are free to do this, of course, and changing the image itself is a bit more drastic than changing the way it's displayed, but that's where my mind-set is. If someone doesn't like my signature, they can always get a new matte. It's hard to add one that isn't there, though, if you want one.

    It doesn't mean you can't sign the print in addition.

    Don't mean to sound like I'm trying to convince anyone to change. This is a highly personal choice.
     

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