Some of my first b&w images - critique needed :)

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  1. gordon77

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    Hey ppl of TPF - these are my first images on here and only the second post so here goes. these are some images ive taken on my 400D with a 17-85mm IS USM. these origionally were in colour but shot in raw and converted to monochrome. i have seen some of the awesome b&w's ppl post on here and am after the same affect however im not to sure how to get 'film' restults out of my dslr. please suggest anything i can do better :)

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  2. ANDS!

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    What do you mean by film? High noise?
     
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    There is no way for digital to reach a film result(not for now at least), we need to accept that as a fact.

    If you want film result, go buy a film camera and B&W film and have fun...
     
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    I find shooting RAW alot better, if thats any help..
     
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    nomade - thats what i was thinking and the reason i kept my slr when i got the dslr :) those were shot in raw and converted over to monochrome in the camera software
     
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    Not ture, it maybe easier with film, but it can be done digitally, first it is best to shot in RAW (color), convert is PS by using Channel Mixer it works better that De-saturate most of the time, or use an add on B&W Action or Filter, google “PS Action” you will find several for cheap or free, add grain, play with the contrast, all to your liking
     
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    thanks Jeff i just have the normal photoshop cs with no plugins - ill check it out :)
     
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    I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree. Digital is not film. This much is true. But you can do many things to make digital look like many different types of film. Possibly more than you ever could do with film. One such option is a plugin called Exposure® by Alien Skin.

    Today's darkroom is a computer. It's not what you do with the camera, as much as what you do after the shot is taken. Great photographers were always great printmakers. Learn the digital craft.
     
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    I like #1 and #3. #2 not so much the sky is flat... I think I remember someone say you have to use some kind of filter when taking b&w pics and a sky is in it. But if forget which filter that is.
     
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    i love this photo
     
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    check out
    http://optikvervelabs.com/

    The plug in they have does mimik some film look. Nice shots.
     
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    The principle differences between film and digital are

    dynamic range
    non-linear response curve
    color fidelity

    With black and white, you can relax about color. The best way to get a film image in my opinion is to do a 'mild' HDR stitch. Film has 'bout 13 stops DR, digital typically has between 9 and 11. Take 3 pics bracketed by 1 stop and you'll get an extra 2 stops which will help you put more detail in your shadows and highlights. Just enough to give you a bit more 'film' quality.

    Second, once you stitched your image, give your print a bit of a curve to make sure your highlights aren't 'clipped' and your shadows arent 'crushed', both are hallmarks of digital formats.

    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1050/687351290_b8b6934692_o.jpg
    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/655275729_ae873d459c_o.jpg

    these are some of my attempts to shoot digital to look like color reversal film.

    Those PS plugins typically mimic film 'errors', as in the visibility of the medium in the image. Its a little like making film prints look like digital by pixelating them. They teld to have filters like "grain", "sepia", "defuse glow", etc. If you want the quality of film (as in 'film makes good quality pictures'), you have to feed your computer MORE information, not less.
     

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