Discussion in 'The Black & White Gallery' started by Slaphead, Jun 27, 2009.
From the 1st of May celebrations this year.
Powerful image. Exactly why I don't respect authority.
May I use this as my background?
But you also have to remember that photographs record one instant in time. You will never know what happened before or after, which may add more to the story.
It reminds me of when the black community gets butt-hurt whenever police shoot or beat up one of their precious gang banger sons. People focus too much on that one instant, rather than how much they deserved it or what those punks did to the officers to provoke such an action.
I am not saying that's what happened here, but I doubt it's as simple as pepper spraying people for dancing. They don't appear to be the classiest people I've ever seen.
As far as the picture goes, it looks very noisy/grainy to me. Is that on purpose?
You nailed it. Partly why I posted this photo was to demonstrate that you can't take that instant in time as the whole story. To add to this photo I must point out that there's a riot going on about 30 yards away, and the woman in this picture had been giving the police quite a bit of verbal abuse before she started threatening them. The man, who I assume to be her boyfriend, stepped in to drag her away just as the policeman decided enough was enough and used the pepper spray.
A picture taken out of context can sometimes really misslead the viewer.
As for the noise, well that's not on purpose, but in these kind of situations It's more important for me to get the picture - and that means running a high enough ISO to keep the shutter speed up. In this picture there was a lot of smoke floating around so what looks like noise is actually smoke - If you look towards the top of the picture there's very little noise there. In this particular instance I believe the noise/smoke adds to the atmosphere and grittiness of the subject material.
Yeah, I noticed it was only at the bottom of the image. That was what led me to ask if it was intentional.
Personally, if I had a trashy gf like that, and I got sprayed in the face over something she did, I'd throw her to the cops.
Have you done any post processing? You may be able to improve it some.
The PP really only consisted of the B&W conversion and tweaks in contrast and exposure. As far as improving it further is concerned, well, for me that's very subjective thing.
I like the fact that this picture is not technically perfect - IMO it suits the subject. I fear that if I was to clean it up the image may lose some of its qualities and become too clinical - it's a matter of taste.
For a while I was kind of obsessed with ultimate sharpness and total lack of noise, but this led me to ignoring images that were very good in terms of composition, impact and artistic value, but deficient in terms of the technical qualities. Sure there are still some subjects for that do require an extremely good technical execution, but for other styles such as street photography you have much more leeway in terms of what is acceptable. Of course it's always nice to have something of good to begin with - it's always easier to mess it up a bit than to tidy it up
Oh and @Guenther Price - feel free to use the image as posted as a desktop background.
That's a good way to look at things. I will keep an eye out for further work of yours.
I did think about the moments leading up to this shot, and from the story told here the couple wasn't acting in a violent way. Thus my comment.
How was she being threatening? As I don't see the need for pepper spray with the amount of police present.
Lastly, Josh, what makes this woman trashy? The tattoo?
Her overall appearance. I guess her tattoos play a part in the bigger picture, but I don't discriminate against tattoos alone. It's also paired with his explanation of her harassing the officers. Her shirt is too small and she has no bra on. If you want to target the tattoos, the half-sleeve could count towards that. Who knows, maybe it was just an "off" day for her.
Good Journalistic approach. I like it. You really captured the drama and motion of that instant.
Very awesome picture. I liky
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