STUDIO SET UP

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  1. keith foster

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    Here is a partial view of our set up. And a few examples from todays shoot.
    We would appreciate any c&c you care to offer. Our goal was to try some high key shots that would blow out the background and leave us with a lovely lady.
    The images(except the studio set up) were pp;d in lightroom. Eyes sharpened hair lighted a few blemishes removed. Clarity nearly all the way to the left.
    I posted a link because multiple people worked on these in post. I took the shots but my students set up everything the way they wanted and did the pp

    I would like to hear what everyone REALLY thinks.


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    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4407296931_3bf0c41795.jpg

    EXAMPLE 1
    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4407298723_c589e3191b_b.jpg


    Example #2
    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4408065366_53e2dc04f8_b.jpg
     
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    Cool! never tried shooting through saran wrap before
     
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    aww man that soft focus is great! i think if you added like a little bit of lens flare, it could make it that much better!
     
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    Wayyyyyy overexposed in the backgrounds. Turn down the strobe power on the bg and maybe move the models further away from it if they still are super white and bright like that. Just my $0.02
     
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    Thanks for the feedbackguys.

    The girls thought the overexposure made them look thinner. I think the lens flare idea would look cool, we will give it a try Bunn.

    The softness was applied with the clarity slider in lightroom but there was some added because I accidentally left the IS on my lens and we were shooting on a tripod so there was a softness added by the IS. I didn't like it at 1st but it didn't bother me as much once we finished touching up. It does kind of look like Saran Wrap though. Thanks JimmyO.
     
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    Yikes.
     
  7. keith foster

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    Thanks Greg. I agree with you. I was curious how people would respond to these. I wasn't really trolling but my students did the pp on these and I didn't like them much. They disagreed and I told them I would post them for feedback. I didn't want them to get torn apart but I figured there wouldn't be much positive about them. I know my "BE Gentle" request ran most of the experienced photogs away.
    We printed a couple and they didn't look as bad printed, the girls liked them.
    I would be curious to hear everyone's honest opinion now that I showed last night's feedback to the class. If any of you would like to rip these this weekend I would like to show the "updated" feedback to the class Monday.
     
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    Students? Please dont tell me your a photography teacher. Please
     
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    :lmao:
     
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    Well Jimmy, not exactly a photography teacher but introducing photography is part of the curriculum that I teach. The class is Introduction to Media and I cover almost all the types of media that are out there.
    Photography is part of it, as is, shooting and editing video, radio, tv, web, print etc. The class is designed to let students explore all the medias and then concentrate on the one that interests them the most.
    I take it from the phrasing of your comment you don't think I should be including photography. Would that be a correct interpretation?
     
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    Soft focus looks can be achieved any number of ways, but one thing I like is a sharp underlying image, with a veil of softness on top, which can be achieved with a Gaussian blur layer in PS,and then a Screen application, and then a contortion of the contrast curve, among many other methods. This looks more like out of focus than what is traditionally called soft focus, or diffusion.

    I think the girls would really like the "look" they get if the photos had been made with either 1) a hairspray-covered filter or 2) a black paint misted filter or 3) a black-net diffusion filter over the lens or 4)a white-net diffusion filter over the lens or 5) a Cokin 084 diffuser held in front of the lens.

    As demonstrated by the photos, and the responses of another high school aged person in this thread, high school aged people often make value judgements that are, shall we say, often not fully mature.

    Contrary to what many digital-only shooters believe, images shot with in-camera diffusion can not be replicated in post production. Using diffusion over the lens will cause actual light photos to spill over, into the shadows, and lighten the shadows by polluting them with stray light...this cannot be done later, by re-arranging the pixels. The effect of the Black Net Diffuser filter for example,is one that can not be "faked" in post. Same with shooting through dark, fiberglass or metal window screen material--the resulting glow and star pattern effect on specular highlights is impossible to re-create convincingly in software.

    If the girls want to be portrayed this way, some in-camera diffusion filters would be most helpful. A filter misted with aerosol hairspray would work well, as would a filter misted from 24 inches or so with tiny drops of black spray paint. Two entirely different effects will result,and it will look better than this Lightroom effect, which looks like bad-focus and not soft focus or diffusion.
     
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    Thanks for that Derrel. Detailed and helpful as always. One of the hardest things I have encountered with kids is their infatuation with pp. They will spend hours creating all kinds of special effects and looks on a photo but only a couple are interested in how to do those things with the camera.
    The original photos were out of focus in my opinion when we downloaded them. I am not sure why. I was for deleting them but agreed to keep these 2 and let them play with them. I posted them to prove a point but that has backfired as you can see from the thread. :blushing:
     

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